I don't wanna preach about environment but it's nice to see these that these new diesels are getting more and more popular in the States too. Can't hurt to get more and more MPG's even if you are rich!

But I have one question: Is that 5K oil change on Diesel ones suggested by your Porsche dealers in the States? I'm just a bit amazed to hear that on your side of the pond the suggested oil change is every 5K compared to Europe where pretty much all Vw/Audi diesels use 30K (kilometers) oil change plan or Long-life system where car's computers decide when its necessary. I don't have this 3.0Tdi engine and I have changed my oil on my diesels every 15K kilometers and all engines seem to be running and working very well. Of course sooner is better than later :-)

Nevertheless good luck with your new car and I hope you'll have trouble free miles with it!

 

Porsches position on 5k oil changes for the moment is because of the "variabilty in quality and quantity of non-petroleum additives in diesel fuel." If this changes service intervals will be updated.

 

Wanted to get some thoughts here...

I've decided to go with a '13 Diesel, and I've found a car w/ almost everything I was looking for, all that's missing is PASM.

I had PASM on my old CT (PASM w/ Air), and on my Panamera (PASM w/out Air), so it's all I know... And when I specced out the Diesel, I had included PASM (w/out Air), but wondering if it's necessary, or if I'll miss it if I get a car without it?

 

Hagel, I just picked up my 2013 Diesel yesterday and I'm loving it! On the PASM no PASM question, I think I changed my mind about 43 times between December and the build. I finally decided in favour, but my salesman talked me out of it, and now I'm glad he did. The car without PASM handles beautifully with minimal role and very solid feel. Again, I think this option (along with air) is all about your personal needs and driving style. I am convinced that I would have had to try very hard to notice the difference if I had included PASM. Its all very personal though based on your intended useage and I don't believe there are any "must have" options that apply to everyone.

Good luck with your selections. I think you will love the diesel.

 

Saw it. Want it! Can't afford it.....yet

 

Picked up my diesel Cayenne on Monday. I went to drive the car (only), but I must have had a purchase in mind since I carried the title to my truck.. I'd call that an 'indicator'.

The test drive went very well. After driving a Touareg Exec I knew what to expect power wise, but the overall driving experience was better than I expected. After the demo, I gave them the keys to my truck, which they promptly went over with a fine-tooth comb, then we sat down to talk numbers. Their initial offer was what I expected, so I told them I'd sell the truck myself and get back with them. After some back-and-forth negotiations, they ended up giving me what I would have taken for the truck on a straight sale, which was many thousands more than trade-in value, so I pulled the trigger.

The car is spectacular. It's not a GTS or a Turbo, but it's going to be a great daily driver. It's 'Classic Silver Metallic' with black interior, it has 14-way power seats, convenience package, Bose audio, exterior high gloss black accents, a trailer hitch, vented front seats, and the reverse camera & park assist. The car has 18" Cayenne S III wheels, which I'll likely replace with something a bit more appealing as time goes by. MSRP was $70,790 - more than I originally intented to spend, but the car has all the options I wanted, and none that I wouldn't have ordered. I did have a discussion with my sales guru about PASM, and he summed it up saying, "you have PASM in your 911.." Good point.. I honestly don't think it's a must have in a diesel Cayenne.

All in all, it was a good purchase experience, and I'm a happy guy.

 

If you don't mind me asking, what are you guys getting off MSRP. I've had one dealer lowball my trade and offer me 5% off, and another offered a good trade but only is offering around a 1 - 2% discount from MSRP.

 

At this point, with the car being as new as it is here in CONUS, I believe 5% is about as good a discount as you can expect. Of course if you're trading they're going to do what they can to make it up by giving you less for your car.

 

Bought mine in Toronto and got 2%. Trade in offer was so bad that I sold my car on my own.

 

Hi Guys / Gals, long time lurker here, just wanted to put in my two cents. Just pickeup my Diesel on Sat. I am a long time 911 owner (996 C4S, 997 C2S) and now traded 911 for Cayenne, you know the story family grows etc...

Anyhow a few thoughts, the diesel is quick. Not turbo or S quick, but for it's size it is impressive. You need to keep it in sport to get that quickness otherwise, there is a slight lag as the tranny downshifts. The truck really drives like a MUCH smaller vehicle. The suspension is really very good. I've had Rovers for years (hence the forum name) and they really are a different beast. The Cayenne is much sportier. In terms of PASM, I'm not sure you need it. I've had it on other Porsches and on the truck it may be overkill. Taking off ramps at speed with my non-sPASM Cayenne, there is minimal roll to just the boundary of tire grip. Not sure why you would want to push a truck much more.

One think I noticed which I have not read about before is that there is a very low level vibration/buzz when cruising under mild engine strain. It is definitely perceptible and I'm sure it is related to the diesel. Before picking the Cayenne, I drove the Toureg diesel and I think it was there too, but can't recall for sure. I'm hoping that over time this disappears. I did ask the dealer and he said that this was normal. It isn't a deal killer, but I think people should be aware of it.

Compared to a V6 Cayenne, no question. I'll take the torque anyday. I did not compare to the S or Turbo as I wasn't in the market for something with that type of MPG. And now on to the best part. MPG! While I'm confident that most on this forum aren't overly too concerned about the $$$ of gas, but I was sold on the lack of hassle factor. I'm getting OVER 30 MPG highway and the truck is not even broken in. In city/highway driving about 30/70% I'm getting 26-28. YIKES! I don't have to fill the tank for 600-700 miles. Less trips to the gas station, less hassles. I love it.

Thanks for reading guys, any questions or comments, leave them below and I'll try to answer.

RR

 

RR, nice review - thx. I have had my CD now fo almost two weeks and echo all of your coments above. Absolutely loving it! Interesting observation on the low level vibration. I also have it (only at around 1500-1750 rpms it seems) and although I find it a little bit annoying sometimes, I just assumed it was a normal diesel thing. I am keeping an eye/ear on that issue though and will see if it gets better or worse over time. Hoping it's a break in issue, but completely agree with you that given how great this vehicle is, far from a dealbreaker. Cheers and enjoy the CD.

 

Glad to hear I"m not the only one who as noticed the vibration.

Has anyone wired their radar detector below the rear view mirror? I had mine in my las 911 mounted as such. Wondering how involved it is to get to a power source in the mirror or overhead console?

 

I test drove one, and I am still thinking about one for a DD for my wife. I too noted the vibration. I felt is almost at all times. I am confident it is related to being a diesel, and being a porsche.

In my opinion, the sporty engine mounts, subframe mounts, and overall rigidity of the vehicle contribute to it.

Still felt like a nice ride.

Mike

 

When I was at Porsche's dealer launch event, we were told that a major reason for the 5k oil change intervals is the AdBlue (engineers initially had intervals set to 10k). Porsche was/is very concerned that people will be stranded because of running out of AdBlue.

As it was stated earlier, when your AdBlue tank reaches what the computer feels is a quantity that is 1500 miles worth, you will get a "yellow" warning on your TFT display, similar to the service interval display. At 600 miles, you will get a "red" warning. At 0 miles, you will not be able to start the vehicle until you refill the tank with at least 1.5 gallons of AdBlue.

Luckily, AdBlue is available for purchase at any parts store, as it is not a Porsche specific part.

 

Put it in another way. MONEY !!! REVENUE !!! SERVICE REVENUE !!!