Just bought some stuff from Phil to start detailing. Bought a PC, Menzerna PO91 intensive polish, PO87 micro polsih, PO85RD, Swissvax clay, cleaner fluid and Concourse wax.

Since this is my first time with PC I started easy. I have seen a lot of clips have to do. My cars has never been washed in machine, there isn't lot of scratches on my cars. Washed and clayed. Started with the bonnet with PO85 and edge white pad. Did as all videos and tips says with slow and with crossing movments. The paint got smooth and shiny but the scratches was still there. Changed to PO91 with green edge pad, but some small scratches still is there. I know its important that you let the polish work but I think I have done so. Should I fille the small scrathes with wax?

Half of the bonnet has taken me about 40 min. Is this normal?

Am I doing someting wrong?

 

I think you mixed the steps. You should have polished using the green pad and the PO91, Instensive Polish. Then follow it up with the White pad and PO85, Final Polish. I would have recommended the SIP and Nano Polish combo with the Lake Country Orange and White CCS Curved pad combo. But what you have should also work; try it again in the sequence I recommended. Also, 40 min. for half the hood is about 2X as it should take.

 

I did change the step for the second half with PO91 with green pad first then PO85 with white pad. I guess I used about 10 min as you recommended but the result was similiar as the first part.

Maybe my expectation is a bit high, but can I expect that that alls swirwls and scracthes disappear or by polishing and waxing in best case hide them???

Regarding the mix of products, I picked myself without tips from Phil. After the buy Phil did recommend my he SIP instead of the PO91. The 85RD I got since a lot of people in this forum recommends this.

 

frafoss, what speed are you doing this at?

I would agree with moe you should do the green pad first with the 91 and then the 85rd with the white.

 

Started with 3 to even the polish, then at 5. Can I expect that the 91 removes all swirwls and scratchs in the clear coat, nobody knows???

I have changed to 91 first 85 second.

 

try working the polish down till it turns almost clear. try working a smaller area and use less product.

 

Working polishes with a PC is not nearly the "fast way" to polish a car. It's on the other side of the spectrum with safe and easy (for first timers). That was one of the main issues that lead me years ago to step up first to a cyclo polisher and ultimately to learn the techniques needed to work a rotary polisher. Cyclo speed things up a little, but polishing on a rotary literally cut detailing times in half.

 

The rotary is fine for the pro but it's not a tool for a DIY. The DA is the safest, and when used with proper technique, and most effective tool for a DIY.

 

Agreed in general... as I stated in my reply. I was trying to help new DIYers to manage their expectations, especially when using a PC, which is a slower (and by nature - safer) tool than compared to what they may see or hear professional detailers using. It does have it's place. I was simply suggesting that a "speedy" detail would not be something I would suggest a new detailer shoot for with a PC.

That is also why I mentioned some other "higher end" more expensive tools that are also safe, but correct faster.

 

What is the "mystic" about a rotery. If you keep it moving avoiding to burn the paint, whats the problem.

I will do a new test with the PC, but if I see that I need to a whole day to get the car look nice, I would definetively try a rotary.

 

I wouldn't hop on your baby with a rotary right away... find a hood or trunk from a junk yard and practice on it first. Usually, you can stop by any body shop and pick up scrap panels to play with them. This way if you screw up, no loss.

 

Where can I get info how to use a rotary correct? Instruction vidoes?

 

Here is a good start:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6f8EQNVxxbw

 

The best instructional video i have watched.

http://www.1car-detailing-training.c...video-c-2.html

well worth the money.

 

Thanks guys for excellent help. I have to do some study now...