GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

Last nights Top Gear (Murci 640 matches CGT time)

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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Roehl did crash the prototype CGT I believe on two occasions. He then insisted on some sort of stability system and Porsche opted for TC. Had they installed PSM along with a sequential transmission, the CGT value would be substantially above where it is today.

It truly is a great car for those who can handle it. Sadly, only a handful of drivers can do so. I certainly am not.
Yeah we know you need all the electronic nannies available to man! Still on the training wheels are ya?

 
Old Nov 11, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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By the way no way, no where can the Murci stay with the Carrera GT on a track. PERIOD
 
Old Nov 11, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by vtgts300kw
why do you bother posting?

Your a waste of time, you only seem to post when you can bag the CGT.

I couldn't care less how long you've been a member, who you are or what car you drive. You post utter crap and it is becoming tiresome.

Go waste your time posting somewhere else.
Yeah but it makes for fun reading
 
Old Nov 11, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by buddyg
By the way no way, no where can the Murci stay with the Carrera GT on a track. PERIOD
is this wishful thinking or have you been on the track with both? Top Gears tests are usually fairly accurate.
 
Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nberry
Had they installed PSM along with a sequential transmission, the CGT value would be substantially above where it is today.
it would then also be undesirable to real enthusiasts.

Originally Posted by nberry
It truly is a great car for those who can handle it. Sadly, only a handful of drivers can do so. I certainly am not.
sounds to me like you are just butt hurt because you're driving skill is lacking
 
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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is this wishful thinking or have you been on the track with both? Top Gears tests are usually fairly accurate.

Top Gear and P-cars don't mix
 
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Top Gear and P-cars don't mix
I thought for once Clarkson gave the P-car the credit it deserved. He also really liked the 997 TT
 
Old Nov 12, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Finality
Yeah well he crashed 2 already so if hes the only one who knows how to drive it there are not gonna be any more CGTs left on this planet in a few years.

I've heard this a few times but I'll say it again here CGT is perfect till the limit once you step 1 mm over it and you crash.
isnt that the meaning of the limit??
 
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Originally Posted by DM993tt
isnt that the meaning of the limit??
 
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DM993tt
isnt that the meaning of the limit??
No a lot of cars are designed to start slipping a bit the Carrera GT just falls off a cliff. Actually it kind of pushes you over.
 
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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There was a video posted with a German speaking driver drifting the c-gt up a mountain road. It looks like he could handle the car when it is sliding around so how is that possible when you make claims that it is uncontrollable once you lose traction at either end? Would someone with more posting skills find that video and post it here? Thanks.
 
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Actually search utube for "carrera gt drifting" and there were 2 videos : 1 of yellow Cgt at Leipzig track going through turn sideways, and another Forza2 video 2 minutes 25 sec long of the Gt being driven around a track doing all sorts of handling acobatics with part of the car going off the track onto the grass and the driver was still in control with no crashes! Of course I am only bringing this up as examples of driving skills that the true enthusiasts would like to master (and what better instrument to play than the C-GT instead of the other electronically aided ultra-cars).
 
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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The difference between Porsche products and Italian ones or other companies building exclusive products is Porsche tests their products and develop each model and each component to work best for their car (street or race model). Their brakes are tested before their specs are used in their applications, tires have N0,1,2,...X designations (after they've been tested). each component has been tested before use down to suspension parts and wheels, etc. The other companies just design their products and sells them to recoup their investments and let the customers test their products (even to the detriment of killing themselves when they exceed the limits (which are not defined by product testing as in the case for Porsche/Rohlr) as in the Vector WX kind of cars.

Lambos are getting better so if the new Murcie supposedly posted better lap times in the Stig's benchmarking then one just have to accept that fact. My personal choice if I were lucky enough to be able to have any car would still be the Porsche product over the others for the above reason of having a well developed product over any other quick new (if you can call slapping a few panels over a tube-frame chassis new) design with a monster engine.
 
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it would then also be undesirable to real enthusiasts.



sounds to me like you are just butt hurt because you're driving skill is lacking

thats right! laying the e-smack down...i like!

all that guy does is try to bash the CGT or any Porsche for that matter. its getting old. the CGT is a better car IMO than anything ferraris ever put out or will put out.
 
Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RufMD
when it comes to depreciation, the LP640 is even faster....
Then that would make it a great buy a year afterwards, based on these results.
 


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