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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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Advice on first gt3

hello gt3 veterans...I have come from a few porsches before but never a gt3, recently I have gotten the gt3 bug and decided to sell my Gallardo. Now I have a tought but fun choice. I am deciding between two gt3's for sale. One is pretty much bone stock no mods but great options, ceramics, chrono, full leather, sport seats, white on black.

the other one is from the forum :
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t3-2007-a.html

Price wise the stock one is quite a bit cheaper. Here lays the tough part, would you buy a pre modded car albeit modded excellently with great parts or would you want to go through the process yourself so you can customize the car to your exact standards. Also is the modded car too much for a daily driver? All the suspension bits on it make it seem like a race car in street clothes.

Also does anybody have any history on the modded car? I know its been well discussed on this forum so if anyone has anything to share good or bad feel free to pm me . Thanks in advance!!!!
 
Old Jul 4, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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I suspect the modded one will be too brutal for the street. The changes to all those suspensions components will probably make it unbearably stiff.

Clearly, the modded car has been driven hard. Another thing to consider.

But if you want a track car, the modded one may be what you want.
 
Old Jul 4, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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I would go for that modded one if you plan on doing some regular tracking. That looks like a very nice setup, the guy even has a CF roof conversion.

It looks like he does his maintenance and has taken care of it. So what if it is heavily tracked. That is what the car is made to do. I would rather have a tracked car with 17K miles and a lot of trick parts that is owned and driven by someone who knows how to take care of a car and knows the dos and don'ts. It is the garage queens who you need to worry about IMHO. They are more concerned with keeping it shiny and not putting miles on it, and when they do drive it, they have some very bad driving habits that can cause more harm than a well driven tracked car. Also, one of the worst things you can do to a car is NOT drive it!

Talk to the guy and get an idea of how much he tracked the car, ask about the kind of track events that he competes in, his experience level, has he ever had any off track excursions??? Stuff like that.

But if you are not a big track guy yourself, then this car probably does not make sense for you and the extra money spent on all those parts would be wasted on you.

You could also buy it and put it back to stock if he has all the stock parts. With those seats and some of those parts, you might just get $15-$20K back, which puts your purchase price somewhere in the high $70's! Just a thought; I might be way off on the resale value of all those parts.

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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That is a fair question to ask. You are asking our personal opinion. Mine is that I would not purchase the heavily modded GT3. The stock GT3 allows you the opportunity to transition into any mods that you would like to have not what someone else has already done. As far as the re-sale of parts, not going to happen.

It truly is your money but, be very careful of a machine that has 17K miles on it and the only pictures are at the track. That could easily equate to a helluva lot of money and time to maintain a machine that has seen alot of track time. Just my .02.... Take it or leave it...
 
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To the best of my knowledge this car has seen probably around 8-10 track events where it has been pushed or raced. Its actually a board sponsors car and I dont ever recall it having any "off" track experiences in fact I believe the owner is a track track instructor at some events. Heres my follow up question say I go with the modded car that has been tracked multiple times, how do these gt3's hold up to mutliple tracking events and hard driving? If it is regularly maintained can these engines and drivetrains take the stress and beating?
 
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I see nothing wrong with a tracked car as long as you know it was maintained properly. What better way is there to work out all the mechanical bugs than to track it? The best maintained Porsches I've seen tend to be tracked by their owners.
 
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If you are going to track the GT3 then the decision for me would be a no-brainer.
With a well set up car it is always better to let the other guy spend the money and undergo the project. I've been there all too often.

I'll bet the stock GT3 is not that much less ($85k ? maybe).
The owner of the modded GT3 is a serious motorsport enthusiast and you can trust the work he's done on the GT3.

Go for it. At $97K it's a good deal.

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I would buy Simon's modded car.

Very well taken care of, the more you drive these cars
the happier they are (as well as the owner).
 
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This really depends on your personal preferences regarding modifications and your driving intent. But if, as you imply, you are considering using your purchase as a DD, it sure doesn't seem like the modified car is appropriate. This is without regard to the quality of the work or the care the car has received. It seems to be spec's out to be a track car that can be driven on the street - far more than a stock GT3. That might be a tough thing to live with.
Re your personal preferences, it depends whether you like to buy 'off the rack' or whether you want to be part of the modification experience. I think that many people on this forum fall into the latter category. Picking, choosing and slowly evolving the car to your exact preferences. To me, though I never thought I would ever touch my stock car, it has turned out to be very enjoyable.
 
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Thanks for all the input....anybody know the particular history of this vehicle? I trust the owners work on the car but any info can help. Like how it ran at the track or anything in particular about GT3's in general. IE how serious is the RMS leak issue, is it more annoying than anything or is it a actual problem that needs to be addressed?
 
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I love all the mods. The only mod I am apprehensive about would be the carbon fibre roof as it really is a pretty major job and something I personally would never do (more a result of potential incompetence of body shops here in Singapore). It can still be a daily driver... I am using my RS every day, and admit that whilst the suspension is clearly going to be harder on the modded car, so long as the roads are not very bad, would be something you could definitely live with and as soon as you get it on the track you know you have all the right stuff and only need to dial in the set up to your driving style.
 
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Originally Posted by Harold
I love all the mods. The only mod I am apprehensive about would be the carbon fibre roof as it really is a pretty major job and something I personally would never do (more a result of potential incompetence of body shops here in Singapore). It can still be a daily driver... I am using my RS every day, and admit that whilst the suspension is clearly going to be harder on the modded car, so long as the roads are not very bad, would be something you could definitely live with and as soon as you get it on the track you know you have all the right stuff and only need to dial in the set up to your driving style.
Going to a CF roof is a lot easier than you might think. On 996 and 997's the roof is a separate panel fitted between the roof rack rails. This panel is held in with 4 bolts and some tack welds; you are not cutting into A/B pillars or cutting any major welds.

I converted my roof and could not believe how easy it was to do. Yes, you do need a good body shop to do the work, and you need to buy a quility part that fits properly; but aside from that, pretty simple.

The shop that did my roof (owner is good friend and did the work personally) had a harder time preping and painting the CF panel than anything else. I already had the roof liner and panels removed, and I believe it took all of an hour to remove the existing panel.

Mine looks factory, is solid as can be, and removed some rattles that were caused by the 50 + parts used for the sunroof! Oh, and it cut about 50 lbs off the top of my car.
 
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no cf roof...he was in process of installing it....If I were to buy the car I would opt for just the factory sunroof. =)
 
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Originally Posted by pnoob2
To the best of my knowledge this car has seen probably around 8-10 track events where it has been pushed or raced. Its actually a board sponsors car and I dont ever recall it having any "off" track experiences in fact I believe the owner is a track track instructor at some events. Heres my follow up question say I go with the modded car that has been tracked multiple times, how do these gt3's hold up to mutliple tracking events and hard driving? If it is regularly maintained can these engines and drivetrains take the stress and beating?
GT3s are built for the track! Nothing wrong with one that has been on it many times, as long as it was properly prepped and maintained. I would be suspicious of a GT3 that has NOT been on track
 
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If you have not driven a GT3, I would suggest driving an un-modded one on the road first to see how it behaves and how comfortable you are with it. Straight out of the box the GT3 will be less comfortable and more involving than your Gallardo.

If you want the car mostly for the track and occasional use on the street, I would buy the modded one - looks like many of the mods I have done. But after the mods, I have found my GT3RS is too harsh for DD, that's what I use my 997 TT for.
 


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