I am having trouble with the heel toe concept. I dont know whether its the fact that I have rather small feet (size 9) or whether it is that I can't pull my foot back very far. Can anyone help me out with this or give me some pionters on how to properly execute it?

 

Correction, "Pointers". Brain fart.

 

you know you can edit your posts, you don't need to make a second post to correct a typo.

as for heel toe, it just takes practice. search youtube for videos and try to do what they do.

your feet are not too small, however depending on your car the pedals may not be in a good position. pedal extenders are a common aftermarket item to improve heel toe action.

 

there are a few methods of doing this, i'm still working on it... find the method that you're most comfortable with and practice in a safe environment. pedal extenders help greatly.

 

Your in Birmingham...sign-up and attend Porsche Sport Driving School over in Leeds at Barber Motorsports Park.
Best two days you'll spend and you will learn how to properly Heel & Toe.

From then on it's practice, practice, practice

 

It is actually pretty easy to get in the right environment. Don't practice that on the streets... if you don't push the brake pedal far enough, you won't reach the throttle with the right side of your foot (or your heel if you prefer it that way). On a track under hard breaking, it is much easier to do.

This is not meant to be done on your daily drive...

 

As others have said, there are different techniques and a lot will depend on pedal placement, foot size, etc. Rather than tilting my foot diagonally so that the toe's on one pedal and the heel's on the other, I use the right side of my right foot on the gas and the left side of my right foot on the brake. I keep my right foot straight up and down.

Here's a video of the above technique in a Carrera GT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ULS7pnxyg

 

what was that double tap on the gas????


if heel toe doesnt work

try rolling ur ankle, when i get lazy thats waht i do. very easy to do jus dont pound on the brake while u do it lol

 

That is how I do it. I can't twist my foot, so I don't.

 

I feel "heel-Toe" is misleading. I do it like that first video shows, so its more like toe-toe. Big pushes down on brake, right side of foot taps throttle. I'm not sure how I could use my heel, since gas pedals are hinged at the floor, meaning I'd really need to have my foot twisted. In the first video listed you can see his foot is sort of in between the gas and brake, and his 'heel' has little to do with it.

 

Yup, thats pretty much how I learned to do it.

FastZ33- the double tap on the gas looked like a rev match

 

For hee-toe, you should not brake with your whole foot on the brake pedal. Instead, you should be pushing on the pedal with most of your foot, but primarily with the ball of your foot (under your big toe) - and the pinky toe portion of your foot hangs off the brake. Under hard braking, you roll your foot towards the gas pedal, which will blip it.

The key to learning heel-toe is to be able to have an identical brake application every time. You need something repeatable that you can use as a baseline. When I instruct students new to heel-toe, I give them 3 steps to learning it:

1) In your parked (off) car, push your brake pedal down with your foot positioned as described above [pushing on pedal with ball of foot, pinky toe portion not actually on the pedal]. When the brake pedal is (almost) all the way down, your foot should be able to roll onto the gas pedal. It only has to push on the outer edge of the gas pedal. Adjust your foot placement on the brake to give you the most feel for the brake pedal, while still able to reach the gas pedal. REMEMBER the feeling, as this will be your baseline.




2) Everytime you get in the car, (parked/stoplight/etc), practice pushing on the brake with your foot properly placed - and gently roll onto the gas (not a blip, just roll the gas) - WITHOUT REDUCING BRAKE PEDAL PRESSURE! Don't even worry about blipping until you can have 100% correct foot placement on the brake. It won't take long, maybe a day or 2.



3) When driving on the street, under braking, practice blipping the gas and downshifting every time you push on the brake.

In less than a week, you'll have the fundamentals down. In 2 weeks, it will be second nature. [but you have to be diligent in your practicing!] The next step is to learn when to do it on the track - which is lesson #2

Note: For a typical 911 (993, 996, 997), the pedals are already placed in the ideal location. You should not have to add extensions or adjust the pedal location. However, some folks like the extentions as it allows them to put more foot on the brake pedal.

Below are 2 short videos showing some footwork:Video 1 is just street driving and experimenting with my camera mount, start at about 1:00. Video 2 is a lap at a local track.

STREET PRACTICE [Start at about 1:00]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2I-Q9rcdQI


TRACK APPLICATION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVY-OONynkM

 

i can't either and i think the reason is how the porsche pedals are placed. having the gas pedal fixed at the bottom makes it hard to heel and tow so I use my right side of my foot by twisting every time i shift.

 

Right. The heel in heel-toe is just a throwback term to when gas and brake were very far apart. In a normal car today you just roll your ankle.

 

I have the Rennline pedals with extensions and it is easy to do the side by side method.