If you were to spend somewhere around $30K, (+/- $5K) is there a Porsche out there that will compete with an Evo 8 and/or a Z06 (C5) as a track car / canyon carver? All would need to be street legal. Can you find a 993 in the mid 20's and modify it to be competitive? If not, what other P-cars would be competitive?

(I posted this already in the 911 section, but I thought I'd post it here as well since you guys always have good advice. )

 

A properly modded 944 Turbo will get the job done, but you'd be hard pressed to find that level of speed, with reasonable reliability and streetability for 30k from a modern Porsche.

A supercharged Boxster with proper suspension would work, too, but a good one for 30k will be tough.

A plain Jane 99 996 can be had for low 30s, and will hang just fine with those cars, giving up a little straight line speed to the Z06.

There are some very fast 914s around.

 

Yeah, 951 is your best bet IMHO. Or you can get an early car or SC and stick a 3.6 in it with all the suspension done up, that'll hang nicely with a Z06/Evo.

 

Great point on the 944 Turbo PMac.
CJA, Ill do the same with the 944T as I did with the 993 on the other thread.
89 944 Turbo $15k approx for a decent car. (247hp stock) Almost 50/50 weight distribution. Comes standard with limited slip and pretty decent brakes for the car (Get some nice pads).
Header, straight pipe and muffler. $2000
ECU Tuning (Chip)$400
Leda Coilovers $3000
MAF $1500.

Here you then have a sub 3000 lbs car with over 350hp. For relatively short $. 944's are a blast on the track.

 

Turbo Charged 968 $10K for the car $20K for the new T/CEngine $5K for an upgraded suspension.

 

If you were to stay with the 911 platform only, what would you do??? I saw an ad in GT Purely Porsche about early model 911's (72-74) that have 3.0 motors dropped in them. I think they were in the $30K range. Anyone have any experience with anything similar?

 

In that case, I would pick up an 78 911 SC$8-$10k and drop a 3.6 in it. Get some PSS9's, sway bars, big reds, and you are set.

 

i think that he may be looking to finance $30k not cash. maybe that is why he is thinking 996 and comparing Z06 and EVO8 since they are all about $30k.

Yes you can hang with those cars in a 996... my first upgrade would be suspension

 

Actually the $30K would be cash. It would be for a fun car. I like the idea of a 911 more than a 944 even though I think you can get a lot of bang out of a 944. I think the Z06 & EVO are both good performance cars, and so that's why I chose them as the benchmark.

The more I think about it, it seems like an "old school" 911 with some modern upgrades may be the way to go.

Something like this:

 

oh well then so many options!! yes an old school 911 is so damn cool!
very light and can handle so well!!

 

Yes, the old school 911's with a big motor are fun, but you are going to be hard pressed to match the more modern cars in both straight line speed and handling.

I have a car similar to the RS pictured. On the track, a well driven Z06 is still quicker, with significantly less driver imput. If you are up to the challenge, they can be fun / rewarding to drive quickly and the they won't depreciate like the newer cars.

Tinker

 

Tinker, would you mind sharing what your car has?

 

CJA,

It is a 72 with an RS look, 92 3.6 stock motor, factory 915 trans, big brakes and a Bilstein sport suspension. It's street legal, but usually spends more time on the track than street. It weighs between 2450 - 2550 lbs wet.

With the big motor, they're quick out of the hole and very responsive, but a turbo is generally faster from 100 mph +, (although I held off an older 3.6 single turbo up to about 165). That's redline in 5th and it will pull it given enough room.

Tinker

 

Sounds really nice. Do you have any photos you can share?

 

You want to blow the 911's away? get one of these:


Rebuild the engine to a 2.6L or drop in any flavor of 911 motor and you will never seee them through the windshield.

Bro