GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zlaatan
Isn't it just those times we should look at to see what the car is capable of? (but without the drag radials) The times when there is a pro driver behind the wheel that can get 100% out of the car.
No, it's what YOU can get out of the car that counts. What are you going to do? Call in a professional when you have to drive it? That's why magazine times are just that. I am interested in what YOU can achieve in the car, in the real world, under normal driving conditions. Everything else is bench racing.
 
Old Nov 28, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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So, I guess all of us should accept your review as authorative? Just like the split windows big block Vette that Chevy seems to have made just for your in 1964? It's one thing to argue pesonal prefenaces, yet another, to make up facts in a desperate attempt to look intelligent.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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No, it's what YOU can get out of the car that counts. What are you going to do? Call in a professional when you have to drive it? That's why magazine times are just that. I am interested in what YOU can achieve in the car, in the real world, under normal driving conditions. Everything else is bench racing.
I am not much of a drag racer, as a matter of fact, I hate drag racing. I went to the drag strip once just to see what I can do with the car and on my one and only pass, here is what I got (with wheel hop in 1st gear and wheel spin inbetween every shift I made). If I were to go out and run 10 more times, I can almost guarantee that I can get this car to run an 11.3x @125+ and run a 0-100 in 7.5 secs (which would be faster than your modded GT2.. )in bone stock trim from the factroy on the crappy stock tires. But, because I do not like drag racing nor am I that good at it, I wont be going anytime soon.

 

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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 9Eleven
No, it's what YOU can get out of the car that counts. What are you going to do? Call in a professional when you have to drive it? That's why magazine times are just that. I am interested in what YOU can achieve in the car, in the real world, under normal driving conditions. Everything else is bench racing.
I should have bought your GT3

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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SCvet00
I am not much of a drag racer, as a matter of fact, I hate drag racing. I went to the drag strip once just to see what I can do with the car and on my one and only pass, here is what I got (with wheel hop in 1st gear and wheel spin inbetween every shift I made). If I were to go out and run 10 more times, I can almost guarantee that I can get this car to run an 11.3x @125+ and run a 0-100 in 7.5 secs (which would be faster than your modded GT2.. )in bone stock trim from the factroy on the crappy stock tires. But, because I do not like drag racing nor am I that good at it, I wont be going anytime soon.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Rule # 76: No excuses, play like a champion.
If I were into drag racing, I would. You have to admit that one pass doesn't show the best I can do with my car. Like I said, give me 10 more passes, and I am pretty sure that I can run an 11.3x in this car at 125-127 anda 0-100 in 7.5 secs.

I am much more into roll on races and road course than drag racing. Drag racing is boring and imo, doesn't prove much.
 
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If I were into drag racing, I would. You have to admit that one pass doesn't show the best I can do with my car. Like I said, give me 10 more passes, and I am pretty sure that I can run an 11.3x in this car at 125-127 anda 0-100 in 7.5 secs.

I am much more into roll on races and road course than drag racing. Drag racing is boring and imo, doesn't prove much.
What is your 60 - 130 time? How many shifts? BTW, my times were run on MPS2's on the street, not a sticky track. It also trapped 127.6 on the street on a Racelogic GPS. You made it about my car, not I. You brought up a 6Z06 doing a 0-100 in 7.6, not I. I just thought I would show you real world numbers from a 6Z06 owner, not theory or hypothesis. He ran a 7.97 0 - 100 in a slightly modified 6Z06 and you claim you can do it in 7.5? Would you like to borrow a Racelogic to see what you run? I would have to impose on KPG again, but I think he would be agree.

You may lower your ET by a tenth or so, but I doubt your trap speed will increase by 3 miles an hour unless you increase your horsepower. ET and trap speeds are not dependent of each other. One is reaction, one is HP. I'm not sure what I would run at the track. I'll give you real world numbers in March. Divexxtreme, KPG, several others and myself will be at MIR in March. You are more than welcome to attend and show us how fast your car is.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Its not apples and oranges flat out. If in any case the gt3 is more of a similar car then the 997 turbo. Reason being is that the gt3 is N/a just like the zo6, its rear wheel drive JUST like the zo6, it is just as streetable as the zo6. Its def a better comparison then that turbo.
 
Old Nov 28, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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What is your 60 - 130 time? How many shifts? BTW, my times were run on MPS2's on the street, not a sticky track. It also trapped 127.6 on the street on a Racelogic GPS. You made it about my car, not I. You brought up a 6Z06 doing a 0-100 in 7.6, not I. I just thought I would show you real world numbers from a 6Z06 owner, not theory or hypothesis. He ran a 7.97 0 - 100 in a slightly modified 6Z06 and you claim you can do it in 7.5? Would you like to borrow a Racelogic to see what you run? I would have to impose on KPG again, but I think he would be agree.

You may lower your ET by a tenth or so, but I doubt your trap speed will increase by 3 miles an hour unless you increase your horsepower. ET and trap speeds are not dependent of each other. One is reaction, one is HP. I'm not sure what I would run at the track. I'll give you real world numbers in March. Divexxtreme, KPG, several others and myself will be at MIR in March. You are more than welcome to attend and show us how fast your car is.
I would love to see his times on the STREET like everyone else, and by using the Racelogix Box as well
 
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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What is your 60 - 130 time? How many shifts? BTW, my times were run on MPS2's on the street, not a sticky track. It also trapped 127.6 on the street on a Racelogic GPS. You made it about my car, not I. You brought up a 6Z06 doing a 0-100 in 7.6, not I. I just thought I would show you real world numbers from a 6Z06 owner, not theory or hypothesis. He ran a 7.97 0 - 100 in a slightly modified 6Z06 and you claim you can do it in 7.5? Would you like to borrow a Racelogic to see what you run? I would have to impose on KPG again, but I think he would be agree.

You may lower your ET by a tenth or so, but I doubt your trap speed will increase by 3 miles an hour unless you increase your horsepower. ET and trap speeds are not dependent of each other. One is reaction, one is HP. I'm not sure what I would run at the track. I'll give you real world numbers in March. Divexxtreme, KPG, several others and myself will be at MIR in March. You are more than welcome to attend and show us how fast your car is.
I dont know what my 60-130 time is, as that is not a good start or a good finish. Something better for me would be from 50-125, that way I only have to mkae one shift. If I do a 50 to 130, I would have to make 2 shifts.

When I ran at the track, it was 80*, humid and my first time. Believe me, in cooler weather, better driving, and more practice, I am sure I can trap atleast 126, if not probably higher. Remember, the 0-98 mph in 7.55 secs was done with wheel hop in first gear. Ask any C6 Z owner and they will tell you how bad wheel hop is in this car in 1st gear. I have no reason to lie.

If you want to send me that device you have, I will be more than happy to give it a shot and record performance data. unfortunately right now, it is winter and there is snow on the ground.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Idont know what my 60-130 time is, as that is not a good start or a good finish. Something better for me would be from 50-125, that way I only have to mkae one shift. If I do a 50 to 130, I would have to make 2 shifts.

When I ran at the track, it was 80* out and humid. Believe me, in cooler weather, better driving, and more practice, I am sure I can trap atleast 126, if not probably more. Remember, the 0-98 mph in 7.55 secs was done with lots of wheel hop in first. Ask any C6 Z owner and they will tell you how bad wheel hop is in this car. I have no reason to lie.

If you want to send me that devide you have, I will be more than happy to give it a shot and record the data. unfortunately right now, it is winter and there is snow on the ground.
Wheel hop in the porsche's are just as bad, dont forget
 
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i was just about to say the same thing. you beat me to it martin!
 
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Maybe so, but I am sure the times acheived in these cars were not done on the first try, either..

Like I said, I hate drag racing and just wanted to see what the car can do. The fact that it went from 0-98 in 7.5 secs with wheel hop, in the heat, on my first run says a lot. We all know the Z06 is fast, and I know nobody is disputing that.

In the spring time, when it gets nice out, I will be more than happy to get this GPS device and record some times.
 
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at least that way data can be compared accurately. its nice that members here are so willing to loan them out to people, but then again thats why its such a great family here. everyone been doing the 60-130 times because its a great indicator of power and speed and the times are quite good for comparison. i dont think 7.5 sec 0-100 is realistic as even mags have run the 997TT in 7.8 and those are pros and they can romp on those cars as most owners do not want to burn the clutch out with non stop drop clutch launches. either way, run your car and see what you get, that way we can say i ran this time or that time and in fact this car or that car IS faster than another with US driving and not pros in magazines.
just to point out, vr alex did 60-130 in 3.8 secs, and I guarantee not more than a handful of car will beat that!
 
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Maybe so, but I am sure the times acheived in these cars were not done on the first try, either..

Like I said, I hate drag racing and just wanted to see what the car can do. The fact that it went from 0-98 in 7.5 secs with wheel hop, in the heat, on my first run says a lot. We all know the Z06 is fast, and I know nobody is disputing that.

In the spring time, when it gets nice out, I will be more than happy to get this GPS device and record some times.
You have a 1 foot roll out at the track so that gives you a slight time reduction to 100 and of course a sticky track helps. Your 0 - 60 foot time will be over 2 seconds on the street unlike your track time. The GPS starts the moment you move. I will be very interested to see what it can run 0 - 100 on the street. Launch and traction are issues on the street, less than 8 seconds will be a surprise. 60 - 130 can be done with one shift. 1st to 3rd, when you hit 60 you're already in 3rd and accelerate to 130. I think if I'm not mistaken you can make it to 130 without shifting again. When you are ready, let us know. Until then, let's keep the speculation down to a minimum.
 

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