GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

Looking for a GT3-RS {willing to pay a premium}

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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Don't misquote

"You know, I am not really sure why you are posting about this"

I think the above says it all, and then I speculated in attempt to understand. You didn't want others to debate the extent of the premium. The market will decide the premium and your attempt to limit debate and speculation will not matter one bit. The percentages say: the longer you wait, the greater the chance you have of buying it without a premium; unless this is the one time that Porsche throws the market a curve ball (now why would I say that!)

I'm done on this subject, other than to say don't characterize, misquote or misconstrue me, my comments (taken in context and totality) stand for the independent reader to draw their own conclusions about me,and you.

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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
No, you said and I quote above that I am trying to buy the car below "market" value from an unaware seller. Or I'm trying to jawbone down the price. On both accords, that is an obnixous thing to say to someone. I am doing neither.

I have simply stated, there is a price I am willing to pay and for the main reason of not wanting to have someone outbid me for $500-$1000, I would prefer to keep that number between me and the seller.

Furthermore, I have also said that there probably will be cars that will sell for an extraordinarily high premium. But that does not mean ALL of them will. Take for example the Carrera GT. Nuff said.

I don't see why any of my comments have gotten you into such a fuss. I was not trying to start an argument, cause a debate, or even start a poll on what premiums are thought to be, should be, or in reality what they are. Right now everything is subjective. And no, the car is not worth $50k to me. Maybe to someone else it is, but not to me.

It would be stupid for me to post what I am willing to pay especially when there are no sellers. So please stop feeling the need to tell me that I am approaching this unethically because you feel a need to know what I am or am not willing to pay....

You are trying to argue with me simply for the arguments sake. I have no reason to debate with you. My offer stands to any serious seller.

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you cannot compare resale on a 450k car vs. 130k car... no way no how... 1 percent of the population might be able to afford the GT3 RS but only 1 percent of that 1 percent can afford the CGT... besides the CGT wasn't the BEST bang for the buck in its price range... many prefer the SLR for driveablity and the Murci Roadster for WOW factor... the CGT was stuck in between and that is why it is demanding no more than 350k for a Brand New '05... where as Porsche built too many CGTs they are NOT building nearly enough RSs to keep everyone happy and thus the RS will demand much MUCH MORE premium when the cars arrive in the US and there beyond... for reference please refer to the 996GT3RS... and see what it is the price at ROW for a used one...

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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
you cannot compare resale on a 450k car vs. 130k car... no way no how... 1 percent of the population might be able to afford the GT3 RS but only 1 percent of that 1 percent can afford the CGT... besides the CGT wasn't the BEST bang for the buck in its price range... many prefer the SLR for driveablity and the Murci Roadster for WOW factor... the CGT was stuck in between and that is why it is demanding no more than 350k for a Brand New '05... where as Porsche built too many CGTs they are NOT building nearly enough RSs to keep everyone happy and thus the RS will demand much MUCH MORE premium when the cars arrive in the US and there beyond... for reference please refer to the 996GT3RS... and see what it is the price at ROW for a used one...

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Very good points Alan,
It will be very intersting to track the price points on the RS and I will not be surprised if it breaks the norm. I think the only "REAL" factor that has the potential to keep the price down is the similarity to the GT3.
What I think will be even more intersting is to see how many of the RS cars that come to the states will be used for their intended purpose and how many of them will be showroom, collectors cars.
I just hope we get to see some of them out at the track. I know it would also be a shame to take such a rare car and put it though it's paces at threshold.. But I would very much like to see at least a few of them at speed.

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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by B-Line
Very good points Alan,
It will be very intersting to track the price points on the RS and I will not be surprised if it breaks the norm. I think the only "REAL" factor that has the potential to keep the price down is the similarity to the GT3.
What I think will be even more intersting is to see how many of the RS cars that come to the states will be used for their intended purpose and how many of them will be showroom, collectors cars.
I just hope we get to see some of them out at the track. I know it would also be a shame to take such a rare car and put it though it's paces at threshold.. But I would very much like to see at least a few of them at speed.

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it would be a shame to see most of them as Garage Queens... but thats reality... people will buy the regular GT3 to do all the dirty work while the RS enjoys the climate comfort of a garage or showroom for years to come! you made a great point about the RS is very similar with the GT3 thus the collector's value is lower... you are right but its values will not be brought down by the GT3 rather the GT3's value will be brought up by the over priced lessly equiped RSs...

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2008 Gt3 rs will be produced. No if and or buts. You will hear conflicting reports to keep values up but they are coming.

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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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2008 Gt3 rs will be produced. No if and or buts. You will hear conflicting reports to keep values up but they are coming.

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You are absolutely correct.
 
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Byronmaui
2008 Gt3 rs will be produced. No if and or buts. You will hear conflicting reports to keep values up but they are coming.

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thats what I hear as well
 
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Byronmaui
2008 Gt3 rs will be produced. No if and or buts. You will hear conflicting reports to keep values up but they are coming.

Byron
That is what I read somewhere, but the total number 07 + 08 RSs will remain at just above 200. We shall see.
 
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
it would be a shame to see most of them as Garage Queens... but thats reality... people will buy the regular GT3 to do all the dirty work while the RS enjoys the climate comfort of a garage or showroom for years to come! you made a great point about the RS is very similar with the GT3 thus the collector's value is lower... you are right but its values will not be brought down by the GT3 rather the GT3's value will be brought up by the over priced lessly equiped RSs...

Alan
Mine will see the track, but I wish I could get a GT3 for the "dirty work" too. Maybe next year.
 
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Why not just get a 996 GT3 or 997 GT3? I think the RS is not worth 25k more than a regular GT3 and that it is more of a poseur car. IMHO
 
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Huh?

It's a 17k premium and you get a LOT of stickers!
 
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