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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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I'm thinking about ordering a GT3 but almost given up with all the hassel such as finding allocation and selling my Turbo. I'm just curious if people on the board feel the Audi R8 would be the better choice. I recalled the R8 is faster in terms of magazine racing. Does anyone know what are the time on the Ring?
 
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I think the GT3 will feel lighter, edgier, and overall be a more involving driving experience. The R8 is more of a unique, look-at-me car, with great performance...that's just my opinion without driving either of them.
 
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I would never compare Porsche with Audi...
in a few years the R8 will we forgotten.....but an 911 is Porsche! a true sport car!

just my opinion.....
 
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I'm thinking about ordering a GT3 but almost given up with all the hassel such as finding allocation and selling my Turbo. I'm just curious if people on the board feel the Audi R8 would be the better choice. I recalled the R8 is faster in terms of magazine racing. Does anyone know what are the time on the Ring?
well in terms of 1/4 mile and trap speed, the GT3 is way faster. the GT3 runs like 12 flat @118-120 mph. the r8 only traps 114 (can barely keep pace with the C4S). in terms of handling, its GT3 all the way. also the GT3 is gonna lap faster on any course you track them on. looks, the r8 is basically an ugly rebadged gallardo. the choice is easy. as someone said, in a couple years the audi will just be another overhyped and underperforming audi with subpar looks while the 911 will be, gorgeous, amazing, and well, a 911 afterall. these two cars arent even in the same game let alone the same league.
 
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i have driven both cars while i was in scottsdale
the r8 is fast, beautiful, and handles like the gt3 could only dream of

however
i would choose a gt3 over an r8

the gt3 is a race car
the r8 is a sports car

i would rather get the r8 over a c4s
not the gt3 thougu
 
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IMO the r8 is more of an exotic that the porsche. it is more of a race car, while the gt3 is more of a sport car, just my opinion.
having owned a few cars from each company....i would take the audi

steve, you say you drove one while in scottsdale? mind telling me when and where? i live in PV and have yet to find one for sale taht i can drive first...so while im not calling BS......i am calling b.....
 

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Apples and Oranges. R8 is a slick, pull up to the valet "check out the hot new Audi" car. Very heavy car with just OK power for the street, but mostly a design statement. The GT3 is years of performance refinement. No design statement necessary. The Aston Martin V8 would be a more suitable comparison for the Audi.
 
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porsche c4,
with all due respect , please look at any magazine that has compared lap times with the r8 and the gt3 or turbo

the r8 beats it

like i said, i would rather have the gt3
but give the r8 its respect
 
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with all due respect , please look at any magazine that has compared lap times with the r8 and the gt3 or turbo

the r8 beats it

like i said, i would rather have the gt3
but give the r8 its respect
with all due respect, youre outta your f*ing mind. did you even read the article? for one, they were afraid to drive the turbo and the GT3 for fear of oversteer. they didnt turn PSM off when they did their lap which could be very detrimental to a lap time. given the same driven in both cars, the turbo and the GT3 will have the best lap time 9 times out of 10. this was one test where they had incompetent drivers. come back to me in a month or two and lets see when the really test both the r8 vs the gt3 and turbo and it gets romped on by both of them. Porsche> audi

i would actually like to see this r8 vs and m3 csl. i bet it would get its *** handed to it.
 
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I would liken the R8 more to an NSX, a car you can drive daily and also have a ball at the track with. It isn't raw like the GT3, just very capable and sporting excellent steering feel with amazing handling. You could drive all day in the R8 and be comfortable.
 
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hey skoj-explain to me why the r9 was only able from what ive been able to search and find, run only 7:55 at the 'ring'. you do know that the 997TT ran a 7:40 and the GT3 IIRC ran 7:42-7:43. and if you didnt know...12-15 seconds on the ring is an eternity.
 
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Originally Posted by PorscheC4
hey skoj-explain to me why the r9 was only able from what ive been able to search and find, run only 7:55 at the 'ring'. you do know that the 997TT ran a 7:40 and the GT3 IIRC ran 7:42-7:43. and if you didnt know...12-15 seconds on the ring is an eternity.
The 7:40 'Ring time for the 997TT is not a definitive time. It's a time put out by Motor Trend, and the car was on R-tires (MPSC).

If we go by Sport Auto's numbers (a better gauge because the driver, HvS, stays constant), the times are as follows:
7:46 - 996 GT2
7:48 - 997 GT3 RS (R-tires)
7:48 - 997 GT3 (R-tires)
7:49 - C6 Z06
7:54 - 996 GT3 (R-tires)
7:54 - 997 Turbo
7:56 - 996 Turbo

Some more magazine racing numbers:

From EVO UK (Bedford West Circuit):
1:22.1 - R8
1:22.8 - Gallardo (520HP)
1:23.1 - 997 GT3
1:23.1 - 599 GTB Fiorano
1:23.5 - 997 Turbo
1:24.2 - F430

On street tires, the R8 is faster than the 997 Turbo around Hockenheim (according to Sport Auto): 1:12.7 vs. 1:13.7.

The next issue of Sport Auto will have the R8 Supertest. Now that's something to look forward to.


~Henjie
 
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I would rather have the GT3 .. a couple years from now the R8 depreciation would be ridiculous.
 
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Originally Posted by Henjie
The 7:40 'Ring time for the 997TT is not a definitive time. It's a time put out by Motor Trend, and the car was on R-tires (MPSC).

If we go by Sport Auto's numbers (a better gauge because the driver, HvS, stays constant), the times are as follows:
7:46 - 996 GT2
7:48 - 997 GT3 RS (R-tires)
7:48 - 997 GT3 (R-tires)
7:49 - C6 Z06
7:54 - 996 GT3 (R-tires)
7:54 - 997 Turbo
7:56 - 996 Turbo

Some more magazine racing numbers:

From EVO UK (Bedford West Circuit):
1:22.1 - R8
1:22.8 - Gallardo (520HP)
1:23.1 - 997 GT3
1:23.1 - 599 GTB Fiorano
1:23.5 - 997 Turbo
1:24.2 - F430

On street tires, the R8 is faster than the 997 Turbo around Hockenheim (according to Sport Auto): 1:12.7 vs. 1:13.7.

The next issue of Sport Auto will have the R8 Supertest. Now that's something to look forward to.


~Henjie
nice find. wow, im surprised the f430 is so low on that list considering its much much lighter than the 911 turbo and has more hp and higher redline. wheres the 996 GT3 on that list?
 
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Originally Posted by Henjie
The 7:40 'Ring time for the 997TT is not a definitive time. It's a time put out by Motor Trend, and the car was on R-tires (MPSC).

If we go by Sport Auto's numbers (a better gauge because the driver, HvS, stays constant), the times are as follows:
7:46 - 996 GT2
7:48 - 997 GT3 RS (R-tires)
7:48 - 997 GT3 (R-tires)
7:49 - C6 Z06
7:54 - 996 GT3 (R-tires)
7:54 - 997 Turbo
7:56 - 996 Turbo

Some more magazine racing numbers:

From EVO UK (Bedford West Circuit):
1:22.1 - R8
1:22.8 - Gallardo (520HP)
1:23.1 - 997 GT3
1:23.1 - 599 GTB Fiorano
1:23.5 - 997 Turbo
1:24.2 - F430

On street tires, the R8 is faster than the 997 Turbo around Hockenheim (according to Sport Auto): 1:12.7 vs. 1:13.7.

The next issue of Sport Auto will have the R8 Supertest. Now that's something to look forward to.


~Henjie
Umm GT2 ran a 7:42 COUGH

Anyway all this bickering is stupid, 2 totally different cars.. The GT3's handling quoted by every magazine is flat out INSANE, it doesnt need or have AWD to make the grip it does..
 


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