Heel & Toe or Toe & Heel with the 996 GT3 - Which way around?
Heel & Toe or Toe & Heel with the 996 GT3 - Which way around?
Ì've tried both ways;
1. toes on the brake and heel on the gas
2. toes partially on the brakes and partially on the gas.
On street #2 seems to work better for me but at the track I noticed I was slipping my foot from the break pedal too easily. That's very scary when coming down from +150mph at turn one at Moroso. Hence I have tried the option #1 but it seems almost impossible to get my heel comfortably on the gas and I ended up getting jerky downshifts and braking...
On the other hand, a friend of mine who is a very experienced driver, had no problems heel & toe'ing using method #1 in my car.
Is it just me and my crumpy legs or which method do you guys use on the 996 GT3???
Any input/help would be appreciated as this is technique I definately want/need to master!
Thanks!
Juha
1. toes on the brake and heel on the gas
2. toes partially on the brakes and partially on the gas.
On street #2 seems to work better for me but at the track I noticed I was slipping my foot from the break pedal too easily. That's very scary when coming down from +150mph at turn one at Moroso. Hence I have tried the option #1 but it seems almost impossible to get my heel comfortably on the gas and I ended up getting jerky downshifts and braking...
On the other hand, a friend of mine who is a very experienced driver, had no problems heel & toe'ing using method #1 in my car.
Is it just me and my crumpy legs or which method do you guys use on the 996 GT3???
Any input/help would be appreciated as this is technique I definately want/need to master!
Thanks!
Juha
I've noticed it's a bit harder for me so far in the GT3 as compared to the GT. I keep hitting the floor with my heel. I'll just keep practicing on exit ramps until I get to the track.
I have the same problem due to the brake padel is too high relative to the gas padel. www.rennline.com has an adjustable REV2 padel that can even out the two surfaces and am thinking of getting it. Has anyone tried it?
heel toe is really a misnomer. your second choice is closer to the best. It is really toe toe. the ball of your foot is on the right side of the brake. under threshold braking (why doesnt really work on the street) you "roll" your foot over to the gas pedal (which at that point should be at the same height) to "blip" the throttle
also aftermarket pedals can help
also aftermarket pedals can help
I have a Mazdaspeed6 that I can do with just the ball of my foot but my Cayman requires the toe on brake, heel on gas method. I would like to either adjust the pedals or change them out but doing #1 is what I see professional Porsche drivers do and I like to "be like Mike" in that regard.
I haven't even sat in a CGT but the pedal set up looks right on.
I haven't even sat in a CGT but the pedal set up looks right on.
The second choice is the proper way to heel and toe but I can't, for the life of me, get comfortable using it. I just have to concentrate on getting my heel on the gas pedal and toe on the brakes too much for it to be effective. First choice is what I use on both street and track.
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I had a tough time of it until I got a pair of Sparco driving shoes. Made all the difference in the world. My right ankle has been twisted and sprained more times than I can count and does not bend as much as my left.
Originally Posted by C4s Dave
I know what is 'heel & toe' so that link doesn't bring any value to this thread (I've actually read it a long time ago).
There's different ways to do it however and I was asking how people with GT3's (or any 996's if they are the same) are doing it? Which one is more common. (rolling your toes or blibbing with your heel)
And like I said, I have no problem rolling my foot on the pedal to blib the throttle on the street but I have difficulties keeping the foot on the brake when I'm out on the track. (my foot slips).
I have good Puma driving shoes and my pedals are stock.
Maybe I need to get some aluminum pedals for better traction or then it's justt practise I need...
Last edited by Juha; Jun 21, 2007 at 07:09 AM.
I have definately found that practicing heel-toe on the street leads one to something resembling number 2, which can really mess with the smoothness of your downshifts. With threshold braking on the track, you cant get the accuracy with the toe-toe method (I find practicing on the street under moderate braking leads more to a toe-on-pedal and rolling of the foot to the right to contact the accelerator) so I gave up practicing my heel-toe on the street completely. Mind you, I think the position of the brake-pedal and its range (or lack) of movement leads to this 'dichotomy'. In my evo I have never experienced this problem






