GT3/GT2 Performance and Track Discussion on the Porsche GT3 and GT2

997 GT2 7.37 on NBR

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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3 seconds on a 7-8 minute track is not much.
 
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh
Walther Röhrl's best time in the CGT is 7:28.

7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg, Walter Rohrl, (Autobild 07/04)
7.32 - Porsche Carrera GT (Sport Auto Trophy, driven by Horst von Saurma)
7.32 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 PS/1432 kg (Gemballa)
7:33 - Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/1230 kg (sport auto 05/06)
7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), Oct 17-18 2005
7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40 - Porsche 997 Turbo 480PS/1565 kg Walter Rohrl
7:41 - Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413 PS/1320 kg (160.868 km/h), Lucas Luhr (Autobild 07/04)
7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg, Walter Rohrl (Automobil 05/06)
7:42 - Ford GT, 550 PS/1521 kg (as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05) (news release, pictures)
7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 - Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg (sport auto 02/05)
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:47 - Porsche 996 GT3 RS (sport tyres)[citation needed]
7:47 - Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear (sport tyres) (sport auto 01/07)
7:48 - Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 07/06)
Something's missing at 7:43
 
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Originally Posted by amerlemans
Something's missing at 7:43
Sneaky sneaky. Does it start with a Z?
 
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Sneaky sneaky. Does it start with a Z?
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Originally Posted by amerlemans
Something's missing at 7:43

There is a lot of debate over that time as the car was modified. Quite of few of the websites that list Ring times have removed it.
There was an independent test done for the C6 Z06 that was low 7:50s and the car was ran stock. This time is probably more accurate than what we saw from Chevy's "special" test car.
 
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Who is this Walther Röhrl's?? He seems to have my dream job.
 
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Top Porsche (996,997,Carrera GT) Times
7:28 - Porsche Carrera GT 612hp/1475Kg Walter Rohrl
7.32.44-Porsche Carrera GT 612hp/1475Kg Horst von Saurma (sport Auto 01/04)
7.39* -Porsche 997 GT3, 415PS/1395kg*mfr (sport auto 05/06)

7:40 -Porsche 997 Turbo 480hp/1565Kg Walter Rohrl
7:42 -
Porsche 997 GT3-RS 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr)
7:42 -Porsche 997 GT3 415hp/1440Kg Walter Rohrl
7:43 -Porsche 996 GT3-RS Walter Rohrl
7:45* -Porsche 997 GT3-RS 415hp/1424kg Walter Rohrl
7:46 -Porsche 996 GT2 462PS/1450kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:47* -Porsche 997 GT3 415PS/1440kg Walter Rohrl*mfr.
7:48 -Porsche 997 GT3-RS 415PS/1424kg (sport auto 03/07)
7.49 -Porsche 996 GT3 392PS/ (AutoBild 2004)
7:54 - Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo 420PS/1569kg (sport auto 06/00)


7.37 for the 997 GT2 Actually sounds reasonabl,anyways will see what happens with citation.

 

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BusyLivin
GT2: 530hp/505tq at a weight of 3175 curb
TT: 480hp/460tq/505tq overboost at a weight of 3494

i don't believe that 50 horsepower, 45 more lb-ft of torque and 300 pounds less will only get 3 seconds better. I understand how long three seconds is, but the gt2 is a whole different animal.

PS, if you count the way you described, the TT would be four seconds slower.


Okay, my misunderstanding. a 7:37 from a 7:54 is more of the difference i was expecting. who knows, these are the times i was using
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...ID=0&tID=10073

whatever, anyway, yay for the gt2. it'll be an amazing car no matter what times it puts down at nordschleife.

You are correct, I assumed that you would know to stop and see the TT coming in at the 3,1000 mark.

50HP and 300 lbs will not get you much better at a 7-8 minute track, either way you slice it the GT2 is and always be the "real" Porsche 911Turbo and what the turbo was from the original concept. By my standards anyway, I dont mean to knock the 996/997TT in any way shape or form as I have had them just favor the GT2 over them in any light.

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Originally Posted by NoRoom4Error
Who is this Walther Röhrl's?? He seems to have my dream job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxkQmcDsulU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJjBzSKN7LE


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Originally Posted by BBGT2
Only 3 Seconds you say? ONLY, 3 seconds is eternity in motor sports.

Visualize please....

997GT2 flies by and then count
1, 1000
2, 1000
3, 1000

And THEN

the 997TT comes in.
Yes, normally 3 seconds is a huge margin...but not over the course of the entire NBR circuit....3 seconds on a 2 mile track is different.
 
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Originally Posted by Josh
There is a lot of debate over that time as the car was modified. Quite of few of the websites that list Ring times have removed it.
There was an independent test done for the C6 Z06 that was low 7:50s and the car was ran stock. This time is probably more accurate than what we saw from Chevy's "special" test car.
If you're going to compare only independent tests then all of the tests done by Walter Rohrl should be removed.
 
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Originally Posted by dr_sharp
If you're going to compare only independent tests then all of the tests done by Walter Rohrl should be removed.

I am not. Read more carefully.
 
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I heard a rumor of Walter Rohl running a 7:29 in a 997 GT2.
 
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I heard a rumor WR running a 6:59 in the GT2. Next...
 
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I heard a rumo WR 6:52 in a Z06.
 


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