Are we talking about HP to HP? If so, I totally disagree (my opinion, only). I believe with equal power the GT-R will be the faster car at any speed (even beyond 250 with proper gearing).

Alpha 9 was only 900 HP. A GT-R with enough power will hit around 230 on stock gearing with the right size tire. The TX Mile Gallardos hitting 250+ are running aftermarket billet gearing with taller ratios.

I heard one hit 1900whp as well. Will it roll on the street at that level? I don't know...but the Stage R package cars (the top stage as of right now) certainly are not.

If a GT-R can make, say...1250 at 3.8 liters. How much at 4.0L? How about 4.2 Liters? There's plenty of room to grow. Not as much as a TTG due to displacement, but again, the GT-R can do more with less. The question is how much of a power disadvantage can it give up and still be competitive?

Thanks. But I won't be proving everyone wrong. Even a current TTG owner that I know believes the GT-Rs will eventually surpass the TTGs. We will see.

What's funny is UR has already bettered their drag time, just haven't released it. They are probably waiting for a GTR to do something better at the track....then BAM!...here's a video! They can be cruel like that!

I sure as heck would! I'd modify the crap out of that thing!

Jamie's car is not even done yet! lol

P.S. that last statement was just a stab in the dark.

Kyle- I promise this is not an excuse, but please keep in mind that my drag times will come from my personal 'street' car. If UGR has bettered their times (which I have no doubt that they already have), it was done using their dedicated shop car, Nera.

I'm not looking to compare my car to Nera at all. My car will be a 100% street car that was built with longevity and reliability in mind, and yes...cost was/is an issue (I'm not wealthy). My tuner is limited in what he can do to my car because of my requirements. I also told him no nitrous.

I can't expect to compete against a company's personal R&D car. UGR has unlimited funds (relative to me), multiple mechanics, tons of R&D, etc.. Nera is a one-off car with performance that I probably never be able to emulate.

I want to compare my car to the standard Stage 3 and Stage R cars that any Gallardo owner with an extra $90k - $120k in mod money can purchase from UGR and daily-drive. Cars like yours, Peter's, Eric's, Tim's, Jamie's, even SW's. These are the types of TTGs that I believe are the current top dog "true street cars". Not Nera, and not some dedicated 1900 rwhp one-off TX Mile package that's not even listed on their website.

Heck, even with a boatload of power, 99% of all TTG owners won't be able to equal the times that UGR themselves runs in their own shop car. Most customers don't even spring for the $25k billet gear sets that allow them to launch the cars hard without breaking something.

Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that I'm trying to keep this comparison 'apples to apples' as much as possible, so that people don't get more carried away here.

Ha ha...it's actually someone else, but that's pretty funny that you named Jamie. He is one of the smartest car guys I know, who also happens to not be a brand-*****, so I admittedly trust his opinion greatly.

Aventador changes the game, similar weight to the Gallardo's more advanced AWD system, and 6.5 liter engine that starts 150 hp higher than the Gallardo's does. Plus the more advanced ISR gearbox which promises gear change speeds comparable to DSG transmissions.

Were just chatting between gentleman here, no claims are being made you have been very stand up about this. Honestly, I am amazed that these cars are now the " Kings of the Streets " and it seems like the pricing is actually fair for both cars compared to other big power builds.

A member posted this and then immediately deleted his post, but I'd like to respond:

Al I have to say is if the cachet and inherent attention draw of owning a TT Gallardo is worth the extra $100-$150k over a 1k whp GT-R to you, the answer is simple: Get the Lambo.

hmm, I'm guessing 8.75@182mph

I understand everyone's points. I'm just having fun......that, and I'm bored.

Kyle

Scott,

1500 whp GTT power figures are rear wheel hp.

Whats the power at all 4 wheels?

8 or 10 % loss when measured in 4 WD mode?

It's all good. I wasn't upset at all. I just wanted everyone to know what my actual goals are.

At any rate, I really appreciate you taking part in this discussion.

Mert,

Unfortunately, I don't have the answers to those questions.

Buy one and find out for yourself.

All I can add here is that I can not wait to run Scott's car. Based on 'customer' 60-130 times, a Switzer GTR and a GTT R build are awfully close to each other. I have a feeling this is going to be an epic roll race. From a dig, I'll lose. From a roll, I hope to beat him. Obviously, I am a huge fan of Switzer and UGR and personal friends with Scott....so I want to keep the trash talking to a minimum....just a picture of Scott picking up my dinner tab will suffice.

I see UGR runs this car in rwd only? I think its lame this car only runs on a private rented track that is probably prepped the whole way just for this car. Like i post on Viper Alley it would be nice to see them bring this out and race it infront of a crowd and awd like the rest of their customers cars. Then we could all be impressed even more.

This is an interesting post. AMS is a perfect example of this. They run customer cars using Shep to drive. None of their customers can/have come close to replicating their 9.1 time. Tym builds cars and sets expectations that customers can duplicate. Tym ran a 9.6x in my bolt-on GTR and I ran a 9.7x immediately after on my first launch attempt. David Kim has done the same on his Porsches. We're both average drivers. Marketing WR ET's by a 'hotshoe' is cool, but if a customer can't go out an duplicate or even beat with some practice...then what's the point?