Baby Mclaren to rival F430
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11-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Baby Mclaren to rival F430
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...id=1011&page=1
cLaren is developing a V8-powered successor to the F1 supercar – and the latest issue of CAR Magazine has the pictures.
The lightweight, two-seat coupé – codenamed P11 – will hit the road in 2010, but CAR's seven page feature reveals precisely how it looks. Using our network of spies, we've built up a detailed dossier on the car’s design and development, with the inside line on:
• the key rivals that the P11 targets – from the most famous names in supercars
• its lightweight construction, layout and performance ambitions
• where the supercar is testing, disguised as which key rival
• who's part of the project – and which famous McLaren collaborators are not
The November issue of CAR has the full story on the spiritual successor to McLaren's F1. That V12 supercoupé, launched in 1993, hit 240mph and trounced 0-62mph in 3.2sec, performance benchmarks only now being matched by rivals, more than a decade on.
That’s why the stunning P11 is one of the most eagerly-awaited cars in development.
The lightweight, two-seat coupé – codenamed P11 – will hit the road in 2010, but CAR's seven page feature reveals precisely how it looks. Using our network of spies, we've built up a detailed dossier on the car’s design and development, with the inside line on:
• the key rivals that the P11 targets – from the most famous names in supercars
• its lightweight construction, layout and performance ambitions
• where the supercar is testing, disguised as which key rival
• who's part of the project – and which famous McLaren collaborators are not
The November issue of CAR has the full story on the spiritual successor to McLaren's F1. That V12 supercoupé, launched in 1993, hit 240mph and trounced 0-62mph in 3.2sec, performance benchmarks only now being matched by rivals, more than a decade on.
That’s why the stunning P11 is one of the most eagerly-awaited cars in development.
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12-02-2007, 06:56 PM
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
This is where they went wrong with the SLR. The 55 AMG engine is a great engine, but it should have never been used in the SLR. It takes away from the specialness and exclusivity of the car. Every guy with a 55 AMG could walk up to an SLR owner and be like, "That's a great car, my car has the same engine in it." This would be an insult to any SLR owner because his car was almost half a million dollars and isn't your common AMG.
Just my .02 cents.
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First off, it really isn't that brilliant of an engine. Yeah it makes good power, but look at the displacement. It's a 6.3L engine with 507hp (more or less in some models), which means it makes about 80hp per liter, which isn't impressive at all.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
#9
12-03-2007, 10:57 PM
First off, it really isn't that brilliant of an engine. Yeah it makes good power, but look at the displacement. It's a 6.3L engine with 507hp (more or less in some models), which means it makes about 80hp per liter, which isn't impressive at all.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
This is where they went wrong with the SLR. The 55 AMG engine is a great engine, but it should have never been used in the SLR. It takes away from the specialness and exclusivity of the car. Every guy with a 55 AMG could walk up to an SLR owner and be like, "That's a great car, my car has the same engine in it." This would be an insult to any SLR owner because his car was almost half a million dollars and isn't your common AMG.
Just my .02 cents.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
This is where they went wrong with the SLR. The 55 AMG engine is a great engine, but it should have never been used in the SLR. It takes away from the specialness and exclusivity of the car. Every guy with a 55 AMG could walk up to an SLR owner and be like, "That's a great car, my car has the same engine in it." This would be an insult to any SLR owner because his car was almost half a million dollars and isn't your common AMG.
Just my .02 cents.
#10
12-04-2007, 05:05 AM
The engine in the Pagani Zonda 7.3 S is the engine that was used in the 1995 Mercedes SL73 AMG. Pagani didn't really do anything to refine or upgrade this engine, it has the same amount of torque as the SL73 AMG, and just 30 more horsepower. Pagani uses this same engine in all their models, but the newer ones, like the Zonda F and the Zonda F Clubsport are tuned to make more power then the pathetic 555hp that the 7.3 S makes. This engine is over 12 years old and it doesn't belong in any supercar. Pagani makes very beautiful cars, but they were never all that fast, considering they are supercars. The only reason they are fast at all is because they are extremely light. The Zonda F Clubsport might have gotten a great Nurburgring time, but the car itself isn't impressive at all. The technology and mechanics in the car are ancient. The carbon fiber work on the car is amazing, but if you look at what's under the body shell, Paganis aren't very special.
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12-08-2007, 11:54 AM
First off, it really isn't that brilliant of an engine. Yeah it makes good power, but look at the displacement. It's a 6.3L engine with 507hp (more or less in some models), which means it makes about 80hp per liter, which isn't impressive at all.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
This is where they went wrong with the SLR. The 55 AMG engine is a great engine, but it should have never been used in the SLR. It takes away from the specialness and exclusivity of the car. Every guy with a 55 AMG could walk up to an SLR owner and be like, "That's a great car, my car has the same engine in it." This would be an insult to any SLR owner because his car was almost half a million dollars and isn't your common AMG.
Just my .02 cents.
Second... An engine that is used in every 63 AMG, just doesn't belong in a McLaren. A supercar is suppose to be unique and special. This McLaren won't be very exclusive if it has the same engine as all the other AMGs on the road. McLaren would be taking the cheap route if they did that. A fresh new engine should be made especially for this car.
This is where they went wrong with the SLR. The 55 AMG engine is a great engine, but it should have never been used in the SLR. It takes away from the specialness and exclusivity of the car. Every guy with a 55 AMG could walk up to an SLR owner and be like, "That's a great car, my car has the same engine in it." This would be an insult to any SLR owner because his car was almost half a million dollars and isn't your common AMG.
Just my .02 cents.
Mercedes makes motor's to be reliable for every Tom, Dick, and Harry with just a little twekking they can pull much more horsepower out.
Get your facts straight the 5.4liter in the DTM is 582hp that's 107.7hp per liter. More hp then the 6.1 liter in the McLaren F1
So just imagine what they can do with 6.3liter
Last edited by 930Cruz; 12-08-2007 at 12:15 PM.
#12
12-08-2007, 12:11 PM
The DTM is more exclusive and ten times more subtle and faster. 107.7hp per liter in that. **** I'll take an E63 wagon with you're girlfriend my girlfriend and my kids, with that ordinary motor anyday.
Last edited by 930Cruz; 12-08-2007 at 12:16 PM.
#13
12-08-2007, 03:55 PM
Nobady said the McLaren F1 wasn't a supercar and it only had that V12 from BMW.
Mercedes makes motor's to be reliable for every Tom, Dick, and Harry with just a little twekking they can pull much more horsepower out.
Get your facts straight the 5.4liter in the DTM is 582hp that's 107.7hp per liter. More hp then the 6.1 liter in the McLaren F1
So just imagine what they can do with 6.3liter
Mercedes makes motor's to be reliable for every Tom, Dick, and Harry with just a little twekking they can pull much more horsepower out.
Get your facts straight the 5.4liter in the DTM is 582hp that's 107.7hp per liter. More hp then the 6.1 liter in the McLaren F1
So just imagine what they can do with 6.3liter
I never mentioned anything about the McLaren F1 or the CLK DTM. The engine I am talking about is the 6.3L from the current 63 AMG models, not the DTM engine.
You should actually read what people write, before telling them to get their facts straight.
#14
12-08-2007, 05:16 PM
What are you talking about??
I never mentioned anything about the McLaren F1 or the CLK DTM. The engine I am talking about is the 6.3L from the current 63 AMG models, not the DTM engine.
You should actually read what people write, before telling them to get their facts straight.
I never mentioned anything about the McLaren F1 or the CLK DTM. The engine I am talking about is the 6.3L from the current 63 AMG models, not the DTM engine.
You should actually read what people write, before telling them to get their facts straight.
Carroll Shelby used the best motor he could, without going proprietary and frankly I still stand in amazement every time I drive, see, or hear a real Shelby Cobra. I am certain Bruce McLaren's name won't be soiled by a 6.3liter MB motor.
I gotta go my F40 just got here.
Cheers.
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12-08-2007, 05:37 PM
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