GTR and 911 in the Same class--NOT
The only Porsche I ever drove was a 92 carrerra. It was slow but still faster than most cars of the time. I would love the opportunity to drive a new 911 tt. I did however drive a GTR at Summit Point raceway and was satisfied. No real point here just rambling.
Nissan GTR
The Nissan GT-R is a sports car created by Nissan, released in Japan on 6 December 2007, and expected to be released into the UK by late 2008. Nissan claims the GT-R can reach a top speed of 195 mph and it has been tested to achieve 0-60 mph times as low as 3.2 seconds.
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have owned both, have gtr now. i prefer it to the tt for confidence and speed, but not looks or class or soul. cant beat price too.
but it lacks 911 good looks (well, i think the 911s or 4s is better than tt).
trans sux in gtr.
but it lacks 911 good looks (well, i think the 911s or 4s is better than tt).
trans sux in gtr.
Brand name aside, i know of a few guys who own both the GTR and 997 turbo and they reckon that the GTR is a better car period. If both were the same price, the GTR would still be better. In terms of looks, the GTR cannot be mistaken, whereas the turbo can be mistaken for a carrera.
****, buy what you like, if you are buying for status or for approval of others you'll never be satisfied.
i'm looking at doing an event soon, and i believe i can lap faster than a friend in a 911t. and i'll be running at full potential... i've done this before, and nothing broke.
you guys must either be really smart, or clairvoyant... because nothing has happened to my car. i operate this car at 100%. what should happen? what will break when i'm lapping faster than a 911?
you guys must either be really smart, or clairvoyant... because nothing has happened to my car. i operate this car at 100%. what should happen? what will break when i'm lapping faster than a 911?
Who will win on the track stock v. stock? The better driver. LC does relatively nothing for you on the race track; you might get to use it once! The thing is if you track a 911 or 911TT it won't void your warranty if you do the same in a GTR and something breaks I'm not so sure.
K
Let me tell you, I almost bought a GTR as my DD, and I didn't mind the look of it, it isn't pretty but the performance claimed is out of this world!
however I didn't buy one after reading through these problems, sorry Nissan,YOU LOSE!
Streamlined, I can see where you are coming from man, you bought a car, but you can't use it to its full potential cuz something will break. I would feel the same
however I didn't buy one after reading through these problems, sorry Nissan,YOU LOSE!
Streamlined, I can see where you are coming from man, you bought a car, but you can't use it to its full potential cuz something will break. I would feel the same

I own both and have owned several p-cars before
I have 4K on the GT-r and I can tell you FROM EXPERIENCE --READ NOT WHAT I READ SCANNING THE INTERNET -- that the car is the real deal
And yes, I have used the car to its full potential -- the TT just sits in the garage
There is no doubt that Porsche is a great all around car, very reliable at the track ect. I have driven and owned many 911s and I just can't get over the feeling of driving a car that has the same basic chassis layout as a early VW.. They will never have the sound I like. I do like the way they look though, I'm looking around for a 997 C2S cab for my wife as a second car for her. The GTR is a great car for what it is. Any car can break if abused. Nissan probably made a mistake putting LC on the GTR. I have 400 miles on mine and never tried it and probably never will. I have LC on my M5 as well an have yet to use it either. I didn't buy the GTR to drag race it, I have a 6spd Supra that runs 8.40's@175 so everything else is slow to me anyway. The GTR is a big heavy car but it feels like you are driving a 2800 lb car. The interior is very nice and the features blow away the interior features of the 997TT. In my opinion for the money, there is no comparison..
SW
SW
Last edited by streetking; Oct 12, 2008 at 09:32 PM.
Nissan came out with one good car and now there up in the ranks of Porsche or who ever. I look at it this way a nissan is still an nissan. In a year or two the price of a GT-R will be in the 60k mark or less.
SW
"People buy Ferraris and Lamborghinis because cars like this effervesce. They fizz and crackle and they’re as much about style and panache as they are about generating G in the bends. A 911, on the other hand, is not about style at all. It’s fishing, with a steering wheel.
When you buy a normal car, you choose the model, choose the engine size you’d like and then add as many extras as you think you can afford. Then a few you can’t.
It is not so simple with a 911. The range is mind boggling. It starts with the simple Carrera, which has no frills, no spoiler on which the RAF could land a jet, no wide wheelarch-es, no turbocharging. You get a simple 3.6 litre, flat six that drives the rear wheels. This, then, is the starting point. My little pony.
If you go for the 3.8 litre S model, it is the best of the 911s. It offers all of the design’s best features with none of the drawbacks, at a reasonable price. But sadly, once you’ve stuck your toe into the world of the 911, pretty soon you are going to be as hooked as a golfer; believing that if you spend more and more on better equipment, your game will improve.
Pretty soon, then, you’re going to be back at the dealership wondering out loud if perhaps you could take the roundabout outside TGI Fridays a little bit faster if you had four-wheel drive. (You can’t.)
Then you’ll start to wonder about the GT3, which is like the simple Carrera S but with scaffolding in the back and a thin back window. Around a track, this is an incredible car. You’ll like that. You’ll start doing track days. And there you’ll be overtaken by people in turbos, so you’ll think that maybe you should have one of those. Pretty soon, you’ll be subscribing to the 911 magazine for enthusiasts. And then all you’ll be able to do, day in and day out, is dream of the day when you can have a GT2. The £131,070 GT2 is Everest. It has the engine from the turbo but with more power and only two-wheel drive. It has scaffolding in the back. It is light. It is, to Mr Porsche-Man, what the very best woods are to the world of pro-am golf."
It's funny cause it's true.
And when you make it to Porsche Everest, you'll still be struggling to keep pace with a Nissan. Is that what all this fuss is about?
When you buy a normal car, you choose the model, choose the engine size you’d like and then add as many extras as you think you can afford. Then a few you can’t.
It is not so simple with a 911. The range is mind boggling. It starts with the simple Carrera, which has no frills, no spoiler on which the RAF could land a jet, no wide wheelarch-es, no turbocharging. You get a simple 3.6 litre, flat six that drives the rear wheels. This, then, is the starting point. My little pony.
If you go for the 3.8 litre S model, it is the best of the 911s. It offers all of the design’s best features with none of the drawbacks, at a reasonable price. But sadly, once you’ve stuck your toe into the world of the 911, pretty soon you are going to be as hooked as a golfer; believing that if you spend more and more on better equipment, your game will improve.
Pretty soon, then, you’re going to be back at the dealership wondering out loud if perhaps you could take the roundabout outside TGI Fridays a little bit faster if you had four-wheel drive. (You can’t.)
Then you’ll start to wonder about the GT3, which is like the simple Carrera S but with scaffolding in the back and a thin back window. Around a track, this is an incredible car. You’ll like that. You’ll start doing track days. And there you’ll be overtaken by people in turbos, so you’ll think that maybe you should have one of those. Pretty soon, you’ll be subscribing to the 911 magazine for enthusiasts. And then all you’ll be able to do, day in and day out, is dream of the day when you can have a GT2. The £131,070 GT2 is Everest. It has the engine from the turbo but with more power and only two-wheel drive. It has scaffolding in the back. It is light. It is, to Mr Porsche-Man, what the very best woods are to the world of pro-am golf."
It's funny cause it's true.
And when you make it to Porsche Everest, you'll still be struggling to keep pace with a Nissan. Is that what all this fuss is about?
"People buy Ferraris and Lamborghinis because cars like this effervesce. They fizz and crackle and they’re as much about style and panache as they are about generating G in the bends. A 911, on the other hand, is not about style at all. It’s fishing, with a steering wheel.
When you buy a normal car, you choose the model, choose the engine size you’d like and then add as many extras as you think you can afford. Then a few you can’t.
It is not so simple with a 911. The range is mind boggling. It starts with the simple Carrera, which has no frills, no spoiler on which the RAF could land a jet, no wide wheelarch-es, no turbocharging. You get a simple 3.6 litre, flat six that drives the rear wheels. This, then, is the starting point. My little pony.
If you go for the 3.8 litre S model, it is the best of the 911s. It offers all of the design’s best features with none of the drawbacks, at a reasonable price. But sadly, once you’ve stuck your toe into the world of the 911, pretty soon you are going to be as hooked as a golfer; believing that if you spend more and more on better equipment, your game will improve.
Pretty soon, then, you’re going to be back at the dealership wondering out loud if perhaps you could take the roundabout outside TGI Fridays a little bit faster if you had four-wheel drive. (You can’t.)
Then you’ll start to wonder about the GT3, which is like the simple Carrera S but with scaffolding in the back and a thin back window. Around a track, this is an incredible car. You’ll like that. You’ll start doing track days. And there you’ll be overtaken by people in turbos, so you’ll think that maybe you should have one of those. Pretty soon, you’ll be subscribing to the 911 magazine for enthusiasts. And then all you’ll be able to do, day in and day out, is dream of the day when you can have a GT2. The £131,070 GT2 is Everest. It has the engine from the turbo but with more power and only two-wheel drive. It has scaffolding in the back. It is light. It is, to Mr Porsche-Man, what the very best woods are to the world of pro-am golf."
It's funny cause it's true.
And when you make it to Porsche Everest, you'll still be struggling to keep pace with a Nissan. Is that what all this fuss is about?
When you buy a normal car, you choose the model, choose the engine size you’d like and then add as many extras as you think you can afford. Then a few you can’t.
It is not so simple with a 911. The range is mind boggling. It starts with the simple Carrera, which has no frills, no spoiler on which the RAF could land a jet, no wide wheelarch-es, no turbocharging. You get a simple 3.6 litre, flat six that drives the rear wheels. This, then, is the starting point. My little pony.
If you go for the 3.8 litre S model, it is the best of the 911s. It offers all of the design’s best features with none of the drawbacks, at a reasonable price. But sadly, once you’ve stuck your toe into the world of the 911, pretty soon you are going to be as hooked as a golfer; believing that if you spend more and more on better equipment, your game will improve.
Pretty soon, then, you’re going to be back at the dealership wondering out loud if perhaps you could take the roundabout outside TGI Fridays a little bit faster if you had four-wheel drive. (You can’t.)
Then you’ll start to wonder about the GT3, which is like the simple Carrera S but with scaffolding in the back and a thin back window. Around a track, this is an incredible car. You’ll like that. You’ll start doing track days. And there you’ll be overtaken by people in turbos, so you’ll think that maybe you should have one of those. Pretty soon, you’ll be subscribing to the 911 magazine for enthusiasts. And then all you’ll be able to do, day in and day out, is dream of the day when you can have a GT2. The £131,070 GT2 is Everest. It has the engine from the turbo but with more power and only two-wheel drive. It has scaffolding in the back. It is light. It is, to Mr Porsche-Man, what the very best woods are to the world of pro-am golf."
It's funny cause it's true.
And when you make it to Porsche Everest, you'll still be struggling to keep pace with a Nissan. Is that what all this fuss is about?


SW
somebody told me he thinks my '04 g sedan a/t is faster than any nissan.
i keep hearing things about the gtr having transmission issues. Animal house racing is working on transimssion reinforcement kits like stronger clutches and gears and what not because they know the transmission is weak. Also there is a sixspeed member that broke his transmission after only 6 minutes of track driving with the vcd off. This member also says that he wasnt doing anything wrong just tracking the car at an event.
i keep hearing these things too... i guess i haven't run into any issues myself, because i've never run with the vdc off. i find it enough to handle with it in 'r' mode. just came from an auto-x today - had one turn that just would not stick.
on road courses, i have a blast in 'r' mode. that is what makes this car special. anybody can get a car without traction control (viper comes to mind). the 'r' modes for all three settings really change the car's attitude.
the vdc 'off' function must exist in the car to change the way the driveline reacts to mud and snow (the ability to rock the car). i believe this is required. so many people ask, why put a mode on the car that be used... because it is required for safety reasons... and there is no proven performance gain with changing it to vdc 'off'. even those 'ring runs were done on r-r-r.
i guess everyone has their personal preference though... those same stories about the transmission issues have gotten me a little worried as well... that's why i just get it checked out after track events.
on road courses, i have a blast in 'r' mode. that is what makes this car special. anybody can get a car without traction control (viper comes to mind). the 'r' modes for all three settings really change the car's attitude.
the vdc 'off' function must exist in the car to change the way the driveline reacts to mud and snow (the ability to rock the car). i believe this is required. so many people ask, why put a mode on the car that be used... because it is required for safety reasons... and there is no proven performance gain with changing it to vdc 'off'. even those 'ring runs were done on r-r-r.
i guess everyone has their personal preference though... those same stories about the transmission issues have gotten me a little worried as well... that's why i just get it checked out after track events.



