I read about this over on Cayman Club.

It seems a guy over there spent a little time on the same track with a GTR and now he thinks his N/A bolt on modded Cayman S is as fast or faster than a GTR.

I'm not a expert on either car but this seems a little hard to believe.

What do you GTR owner think ?

Please don't kill the messenger but feel free to express your opinions on the Cayman owner's inflated ego and bias claims.

BTW I'm interested in the GTR for my next purchase and thanks in advance for any info about the GTR.

 

Mmm I think Cayman with bolt on mods is going to be much slower than a GTR.

 

I agree with you it seems like Cayman should not be able to keep up with a GTR but the Cayman owner is sure blowing alot of hot air.

 

It's 20% the equipment and 80% operator. I've beat C6 Z06's with my stock E46 M3 and feeble skills. So anything is possible. Equal drivers, things change obviously.

 

Maybe he 'bolted on' another NA engine ?

 

Hey, Nitrous is a bolt on

 

I don't think you could use nitrous all the way around the whole track and nitrous is not mentioned. IMO the only thing that could be on nitrous is the Cayman owner's ego.

 

Since I'm the owner of said Cayman I should first tell everyone that "Slowcart" is also known by several other names on this and other websites. Anyone remember Elmo who was always promoting one vendor's products and bashing everyone elses? So much so that the vendor in question had to public state that they didn't support him or his tactics. Yep same person. Result was he was BANNED from the CaymanClub.Net site for doing so. He was given warnings, did not heed those warnings and was banned.

Look at his posting history here, he's once again pushing that company's products here and again bashing any competitor.

I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

Since he didn't give all of you a link, I will, here is the topic thread on the CaymanClub.Net site:

http://www.caymanclub.net/cayman-cha...yline-gtr.html

Read the ENTIRE topic, read everything I said in the topic. I never said "KILL" and I never said the GTR was a bad or slow car, in fact just the opposite. I said it was a tremendous car, a good track machine right off the showroom floor. What I also said was on that day, on that track, with the respective drivers that my modified Cayman was at least equal to the GTR.

Different drivers, different track, etc. and of course the results would be different. No one, including myself, is breathing so much exhaust fume to think that the Cayman would keep up with the GTR in a head to head performance test with equal drivers, especially on a track that would allow the GTR to flex its muscle more.

My whole point in posting that topic was not to say that Porsche is better than Nissan or that even the Cayman was "better" than the GTR, but simply to say that given the right conditions, even a lowly "bolt-on modfied" as slowcart says could hang with the GTR. Again go read the entire thread, at least what I posted there and you'll see that is is NOTHING like slowwit is trying to portray. He just has sour grapes that he got the boot from the CaymanClub.Net site.

If someone wants to bring a pro driver to Heartland Park in a GTR and "Kill" my Cayman, hey feel free, I'd love to follow behind and watch the pro's lines to see if I can pick up any time anywhere on the track. My ego is not so big as to think that I have the fastest car or that I am the best driver, rather it is all about having fun and yesterday at the track we had fun, which I would encourage other drivers to get out and do before the weather turns bad as opposed to reading stuff posted by slowpoke here...

 

Before this gets out of hand, the OP is not being 100% accurate about the claim.

Bottom line, the owner of a modded cayman has a good setup on his car, and was clearly a better driver than the owner of a new GT-R. That's not magazine racing, plain and simple, just shows that driver skill is very important. The owner of the cayman never claimed to have a stronger or more powerful car.

The owner of the cayman is a good dude, let's not get to smear tactics.

Edit: Just saw the reply above, yeah Ken is a straight shooter, there is more to this topic than some lies, just some bitter members, mods you should lock this one up. Ken and I have disagreed on somethings but this is not an appropriate point of contention.

 

You know, there are way too many variables when it comes to running on the track to compare cars. The most important part of any "track" equation is the driver.

I've seen many modified Caymens run very respectable times with the right driver piloting the car... 2:17s on VIR's full course are not unheard of...

Mike

 

By this weird logic since I get point bys from many faster cars than my S2000 it pwns all.

Personally I think it was a nice way to get a bunch of clicks on Caymanclub. Well played, Ken.

 

Ken,

How WRONG could you be?

It must have hurt your bloated ego being FORCED to go back to edit your small minded post and being FORCED to remove the respected sponsor's name from your "RANT".

You should be very aware of the costly damage your type of reckless post can cause WRONG WRONG WRONG !!!!!

It is reckless to bash your own paying sponsor on your own site but beyond STUPID to come over to another site and bash their paying sponsor I am suprised they did not ban you, because that is what you ban members for right ?

As the owner of your own site you should be capable of setting an example by not lossing your temper and in a fit of anger undo the time and efforts and cost put forth by any sponsor.

On the suject of who to believe how about your claim you did not use the word "KILL" well how about "Kills" just look at post #15 in the link you supplied to send 6speeders to your site. BTW I copied it so you wouldn't be temped to edit or delete it. ( see quote below)

"You oughta post a "Cayman Kills GTR" topic on 6speed and point them here... that ought to cause a stir er uh stir things up.... "

I know there are a lot of your members spending alot more time here at 6 speed and as your traffic is slowing down your new method to steal some attention and promote your interests without paying as 6speed sponosors do is a SHAME!!!. Your cheap and shady behavior should get you banned.

I noticed that on your site's thread you felt the need to explain yourself to even your members about your thread titled -----"Cayman GT > = GTR"

( I think most of us take that to mean Cayman GT greater than or equal to GTR )

In your posts about track time you always let everyone know what a great session you had and how fast your car is but I have never seen one of your posts that speaks of anyone having a better session than you. It's like you are the best driver in the world or at least in your little world. I say little world because in the pictures posted it looks like you are so short you can barely see over the steering wheel and I think it would be safer for everyone if you could raise your seat up so you could see since you are always driving so very very fast.

 

Actually thats a pathetic time for a Cayman.....C&D got 2:13 from a FWD 08 Chevy Cobalt and a 2:12 from an 06 350z. The Cayman S they ran at VIR did 2:09 the same day as the 350z's time. To put it in perspective the GTR did 1:55 secs at VIR full course. It would take a horrible driver or a really tight short course for a Cayman S or bolt on Cayman to hang with a GTR. But thats why you race. Driver is the biggest mod.

Id love to see the RUF Cayman with 440hp take on the GTR. That would be interesting.

 

*grabs popcorn

 

bla blah blah I took my stock Boxster S to a track and had a 996TT guy give me the point by. It is all about the driver and not the car and that is what Ken was saying. Great job at getting both to the track.