Motor Trend comparison test: 2012 Porsche Turbo S vs 2013 GT-R
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Motor Trend comparison test: 2012 Porsche Turbo S vs 2013 GT-R
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We spent a great deal of time trying to figure out if the extra $71,000 you'd invest in the Porsche paid for anything objectively meaningful over the Nissan's still-lofty $107,600 base price. It doesn't, and even if money were left off the table, the 2013 GT-R is the better car.
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When push came to brutal shove, I didn't feel I could go as hard and as fast in the Turbo S as I felt I could go in Godzilla. The 2013 GT-R seems to wrap the road up in a bear hug. There's next to no chance it will let go. As Scott said, those left-to-right (or right-to-left) transitions defy not only reason, but also expectation. Your hands are filled with such an immense feeling of control that I'm hard-pressed to think of another car capable of annihilating a ribbon of asphalt in such a commanding way.
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I am truly in awe of what Nissan has accomplished with the 2013 refresh. Time to notch one more win on the GT-R's belt.
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if money is of no object, which would you choose?
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when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
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when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
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Cost wasn't an issue for me and I chose the GT -R. So I guess "case closed", at least in my case, is correct.
Sounds like I made the right choice.
Sounds like I made the right choice.
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I recently sold my 996TT with a Proto 24/18G kit. I absolutely loved tha car the way it drove, power...etc. In the end though it was becoming a dated chasis. Was it a 997TT.. NO... but it could out perform any Stock 997TT or mildly modified ones as well. I was looking at a bunch of cars before I just bought my 2012 GTR BE. For me it isn't about the Brand/prestige of the car but rather the overall package and most importantly the performance. Money was not a issue.... I got a GTR.
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It depends on your preference of interior, and if you plan to run around road courses. For 95% of GT-R owners, I'd bet that if you're modding, it doesn't really make a difference where you start.
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if money is of no object, which would you choose?
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when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
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when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
The case is the GTR is a great performing sports car, and a great bargain which is quite popular and causes so much emotional immaturity on this forum.
In the case of Motortrend opinions on anything, they are the same editors that picked the PT cruiser and Ford Thunerbird, as the car of the year
. Among other disasterous picks. They actually had an issue where they admitted how badly they did on picking previous cars of the year. Hold off the flaming, I am only saying the magazine's opinion should be put in question. Not the GTR, it is amazing for what it is, and should be respected. Also it should be respected if there are those who prefer the porsche or even a ZR1.
Hope this thread does not turn into every other GTR vs. Porsche thread, which quickly results in personal attacks and insults.
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The Porsche beat the GTR in 1/4 et and trap and 0-60. The GTR was faster on their figure 8 track. On a proper road course, I would wager the Porsche is faster.
Both are amazing cars, you can't go wrong with either.
Both are amazing cars, you can't go wrong with either.
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I thought the GT-R had lapped faster on some road courses. I'm not certain anymore, but I thought the previous (pre-2012) GT-R already lapped faster, which would imply that the newer, faster GT-R would do so as well.
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My guess that the Porsche would be faster on a road course is based on the fact that in all the tests they ran, the cars are nearly neck and neck..figure 8, lateral Gs, braking, 0-60.
The only really noticeable gap I see was in the 1/4 mile testing where the Porsche was .2 sec quicker and 2.6 mph faster which is a fairly sizeable gap, atleast a larger gap than the other tests.
But it's really splitting hairs, both cars are very evenly matched and very fast.
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I'm not sure if a '12 Turbo S and '12 GTR BE have been timed on the same track.
My guess that the Porsche would be faster on a road course is based on the fact that in all the tests they ran, the cars are nearly neck and neck..figure 8, lateral Gs, braking, 0-60.
The only really noticeable gap I see was in the 1/4 mile testing where the Porsche was .2 sec quicker and 2.6 mph faster which is a fairly sizeable gap, atleast a larger gap than the other tests.
But it's really splitting hairs, both cars are very evenly matched and very fast.
My guess that the Porsche would be faster on a road course is based on the fact that in all the tests they ran, the cars are nearly neck and neck..figure 8, lateral Gs, braking, 0-60.
The only really noticeable gap I see was in the 1/4 mile testing where the Porsche was .2 sec quicker and 2.6 mph faster which is a fairly sizeable gap, atleast a larger gap than the other tests.
But it's really splitting hairs, both cars are very evenly matched and very fast.
I remember being in grad-school, mid 90's and dreaming of a nissan 300z which could do 60 in 5.6seconds. Look how far we have come.
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You summed it up, who cares which is a tiny bit faster on a track. One can argue that if they are so close in performance then why the price gap? Others can argue that the porsche has 60 years of building and refinement of a great sports car? They are both right and both entitled to their opinions and I am just glad that we are lucky enough to have these options to experience sub 3 seconds accelerations.
I remember being in grad-school, mid 90's and dreaming of a nissan 300z which could do 60 in 5.6seconds. Look how far we have come.
I remember being in grad-school, mid 90's and dreaming of a nissan 300z which could do 60 in 5.6seconds. Look how far we have come.
500hp was unheard of then and now it's the standard.
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I thought the GT-R had lapped faster on some road courses. I'm not certain anymore, but I thought the previous (pre-2012) GT-R already lapped faster, which would imply that the newer, faster GT-R would do so as well.
Jaspergtr. It beat the turbo at autocars track.
Jaspergtr. It beat the turbo at autocars track.
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if money is of no object, which would you choose?
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when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
case closed
when you have editors that can't afford either car evaluating them, they will choose what's sensible or of better value. i bet they will say a STi is better car compare to the GTR since it's less than 1/2 the price for 80% of the performance.
Tsk Tsk Tsk. Money isnt always an issue.