2017 Panamera pictures and video
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According to porsche the combination of lenght between rods and piston is quite different but above all I hope and I think they switched to new high boost turbochargers from rs7 .
Thats the only way I can think for it , to run nurburgring under 7:30 . Much better spool , 1 gear more , 150lbs weight reduction
Thats the only way I can think for it , to run nurburgring under 7:30 . Much better spool , 1 gear more , 150lbs weight reduction
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Wow, the 2017 Panamera looks amazing. It looks grown up with classic Porsche lines.
I'm not a fan of the any of the current generation as it looks like a 3rd stepchild in the Porsche line up and just ungainly exterior shape that is hard to drive even if someone gave me one. However the 2017 model has completely changed my mind about the Panamera and its a 4 door that I would definitely consider getting next.
I'm not a fan of the any of the current generation as it looks like a 3rd stepchild in the Porsche line up and just ungainly exterior shape that is hard to drive even if someone gave me one. However the 2017 model has completely changed my mind about the Panamera and its a 4 door that I would definitely consider getting next.
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Wow, the 2017 Panamera looks amazing. It looks grown up with classic Porsche lines.
I'm not a fan of the any of the current generation as it looks like a 3rd stepchild in the Porsche line up and just ungainly exterior shape that is hard to drive even if someone gave me one. However the 2017 model has completely changed my mind about the Panamera and its a 4 door that I would definitely consider getting next.
I'm not a fan of the any of the current generation as it looks like a 3rd stepchild in the Porsche line up and just ungainly exterior shape that is hard to drive even if someone gave me one. However the 2017 model has completely changed my mind about the Panamera and its a 4 door that I would definitely consider getting next.
Every people around me likes it . I do not undestand , it look very beautiful in person . I would not change everything even for the new panamera because I think it will remain a clasic look
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Umm, because we're human and people have opinions and looks are subjective? 
Merely just my opinion that the current generation doesn't lend itself to a cohesive exterior design. It's big, VERY heavy (for Porsche standards), the exterior lines appears to be random. For example the front fender air vents in on the current generation, it looks random and gimmicky (something that Cadillac or BMW would do, not Porsche). But on the 2017 it looks more cohesive and with a purpose and as I understand it, its lost some weight.
Any who, looks are subjective.
Merely just my opinion that the current generation doesn't lend itself to a cohesive exterior design. It's big, VERY heavy (for Porsche standards), the exterior lines appears to be random. For example the front fender air vents in on the current generation, it looks random and gimmicky (something that Cadillac or BMW would do, not Porsche). But on the 2017 it looks more cohesive and with a purpose and as I understand it, its lost some weight.
Any who, looks are subjective.
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My biggest complaint with my 2014 PTT was the floaty suspension, and it could lose some weight. Going to a 4.0 liter V8, meh, the 4.8 V8 was just fine- amazing engine. I'll be looking for a GTS 
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I wouldn't dismiss any engine purely on displacement alone. Cars have been getting steadily better performance out of smaller engines as time goes by.
Case in point: the '69 Road Runner needed 6.2 L to develop 335 HP (NA of course), for 54 HP/L.
My '97 Supra Turbo needed 3.0L to produce 320 HP, or 107 HP/L.
My 2014 991 4S needs 3.8L to produce 400 HP, or 105 HP/L - but manages to do that without a turbocharger.
And of course I'm not touching on torque curves at all. I'd reserve judgement on the new PTT engine until I'd actually driven one.
Case in point: the '69 Road Runner needed 6.2 L to develop 335 HP (NA of course), for 54 HP/L.
My '97 Supra Turbo needed 3.0L to produce 320 HP, or 107 HP/L.
My 2014 991 4S needs 3.8L to produce 400 HP, or 105 HP/L - but manages to do that without a turbocharger.
And of course I'm not touching on torque curves at all. I'd reserve judgement on the new PTT engine until I'd actually driven one.