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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 06:06 AM
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LED vs HID.....

Looking to upgrade high beams and fogs on a couple vehicles and came across this site

http://www.ledheadlightspro.com/

Curious if anyone knows the pro's and cons of either. Seems like LEDs are the way to go but i don't see much conversation about them.

Thoughts?
 
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I haven't tried the high beams but did order some replacement LED bulbs for my fog lamps.

They ended up being too big for my housings and I refused to jam them in there like the vendor suggested

So. I'm still searching
 
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Originally Posted by 997TTEQNY
I haven't tried the high beams but did order some replacement LED bulbs for my fog lamps.

They ended up being too big for my housings and I refused to jam them in there like the vendor suggested

So. I'm still searching

Have you contacted Max-speed Motorsports?
 
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Be careful!! More often then not, the aftermarket LED's are nothing at all like the OEM LED lights, unless you get a really high quality kit.

The best kits I've seen out there are from a place called The Retrofit Source (https://www.theretrofitsource.com/). Lighting is an obsession for them it seems, and everything I've bought from them for my own cars has always worked really well.
 
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Good info. Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by mikestyle
Have you contacted Max-speed Motorsports?
Actually they are the company who sold me what I have. They won't fit
 
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Actually they are the company who sold me what I have. They won't fit
Just FYI..the LED Fog Light bulbs I bought from Maxspeed work/fit fine. I got them ~6 months ago.
 
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LED headlight bulbs, in their current state of technology, do not produce as much light as a High Intensity Discharge setup. And LED is tremendously unreliable in a sealed beam setup with comparable output where heat discharge from the diode is difficult. These are a couple of the reasons OEM's use LED's in lower output but much greater quantities. Case in point Acura TLX which uses a total of 10 LED projectors, 6 of which are for low beams and all 10 for high beams. And this is why it's difficult to retrofit a proper LED setup. Blue laser through yellow phosphorus lens is the way to go from here on out.


 
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LED's may never be capable of replacing an HID.

The light quality (spectrum) of LED's isn't great. (Much better than Fluorescent though).

Also,. most are towards the white end of the light spectrum,.. and that's not what you want. you want it towards the reds. Your eyes see further in the reds. (Boaters know this as you can see the red light on top of a red buoy many miles before you can see the green one that's right next to it).

http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/...0-0911-xln.jpg

So not only do they not allow you to see as far at night,.. but they blind oncoming traffic,. which is dangerous for both them and you.
 
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Tom is right. The retrofit source does offer high-quality products. I can attest to it.
 
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Call or email the retrofit source and they will generally steer you away from LED options for headlights. I did LED replacements on my TACOMA headlights and with in 2 days had swapped back to the standard halogens. I run rigid LED light bars and fogs on the tacoma and they are bright as hell but they are NOT practicaly for headlights in sealed enclosures.

I'm a big fan of LEDs but if you're changing to something other than a factory style halogen bulb HIDs are still the best aftermarket answer.
 
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Originally Posted by TypeRx
Just FYI..the LED Fog Light bulbs I bought from Maxspeed work/fit fine. I got them ~6 months ago.
Here is what I received from Maxspeed. They do not fit.

Does this look right to you ?
 
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bulb pics above ^^^
 
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I recall mine looking pretty similar. I don't remember install being difficult at all - hardest part was getting the stock bulbs out.

The Maxspeed ones are no brighter than OEM (in fact, dimmer I'm sure). It they color match nicely with the HIDs and driving lamp LEDs I installed.
 
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I recall mine looking pretty similar. I don't remember install being difficult at all - hardest part was getting the stock bulbs out.

The Maxspeed ones are no brighter than OEM (in fact, dimmer I'm sure). It they color match nicely with the HIDs and driving lamp LEDs I installed.
these are too long for housings.. so much in fact they started scratching the reflective housing so I abandoned ship. Not really worried about bulb intensity looking to match stock HID
 


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