Trading 5-series wagon for 997 as Daily-Driver?
#1
Trading 5-series wagon for 997 as Daily-Driver?
Hi all, I'm considering replacing my current car with a 997.1 and would love to hear your thoughts!
I currently drive a relatively-uncommon 2008 BMW 535xi wagon with the 6-speed manual transmission. I absolutely love the car--it has the twin-turbo N54 with a light tune and is super fun to drive. That said, the market has gone a bit wild lately, and I think I could sell it and purchase a higher-mileage 997-generation Porsche 911 to daily. My wagon does not exactly have low miles either and is my daily driver (I also have an old E39 BMW that sits in the garage). However, I've always dreamed of daily-driving a 911 year-round. I ski a lot, so I'd get some snow tires and put my ski box on top. I figured that a C4 would be a better option for deep snow, but generally the C2 is easier to find in my price range. I love the notion of a usable sports car, so the 911 checks a lot of boxes for me.
Would it be a mistake to trade up my wagon (I car I know I love) for a rear-wheel-drive 911 to use year-round? I know this question is largely subjective, so maybe hard to answer. I spend a decent amount of time driving on snowy dirt roads in Vermont with my college ski team, so that's a concern. That said, I previously drove a rear-wheel-drive sport package 335i up there with snow tires and rarely had problems. In fact, my current car is my first AWD winter car and I sometimes feel it is too competent--my five previous RWD BMWs have conditioned me to expect a challenge! I've heard 911s are decent in snow, but obviously ride height is a concern. Embarrassingly, I'm sure I'd miss my heated steering wheel. That said, it's been a goal of mine to daily a 911 before I graduate from college.
I do all my own work, and am aware that parts are expensive. Many 997 parts seem to be a bit cheaper than parts for my E61, at least on FCP Euro (cooling system parts, for example, are more expensive for the BMW). The E61 also has the most expensive parts of any BMW I've owned. Also, I'm only 20 minutes from FCP Euro when I'm at school--that has saved me in the past! Only looking at manual transmission cars--otherwise, I'd rather keep the wagon. Would love to hear your thoughts on whether or not pursuing this plan might be a horrible idea--thanks!
I currently drive a relatively-uncommon 2008 BMW 535xi wagon with the 6-speed manual transmission. I absolutely love the car--it has the twin-turbo N54 with a light tune and is super fun to drive. That said, the market has gone a bit wild lately, and I think I could sell it and purchase a higher-mileage 997-generation Porsche 911 to daily. My wagon does not exactly have low miles either and is my daily driver (I also have an old E39 BMW that sits in the garage). However, I've always dreamed of daily-driving a 911 year-round. I ski a lot, so I'd get some snow tires and put my ski box on top. I figured that a C4 would be a better option for deep snow, but generally the C2 is easier to find in my price range. I love the notion of a usable sports car, so the 911 checks a lot of boxes for me.
Would it be a mistake to trade up my wagon (I car I know I love) for a rear-wheel-drive 911 to use year-round? I know this question is largely subjective, so maybe hard to answer. I spend a decent amount of time driving on snowy dirt roads in Vermont with my college ski team, so that's a concern. That said, I previously drove a rear-wheel-drive sport package 335i up there with snow tires and rarely had problems. In fact, my current car is my first AWD winter car and I sometimes feel it is too competent--my five previous RWD BMWs have conditioned me to expect a challenge! I've heard 911s are decent in snow, but obviously ride height is a concern. Embarrassingly, I'm sure I'd miss my heated steering wheel. That said, it's been a goal of mine to daily a 911 before I graduate from college.
I do all my own work, and am aware that parts are expensive. Many 997 parts seem to be a bit cheaper than parts for my E61, at least on FCP Euro (cooling system parts, for example, are more expensive for the BMW). The E61 also has the most expensive parts of any BMW I've owned. Also, I'm only 20 minutes from FCP Euro when I'm at school--that has saved me in the past! Only looking at manual transmission cars--otherwise, I'd rather keep the wagon. Would love to hear your thoughts on whether or not pursuing this plan might be a horrible idea--thanks!
#3
You are asking about trading so sorry it stays here…nothing to stop you from rephrasing your thread title and text and reposting in the 997 section. You can even copy some info from here.
#4
I drive a modified 535xi wagon as well and it is a monster. Hauls all the family stuff I need it to but blow doors off pesky muscle cars. I think you could sell yours right now on BaT and make a good bit of money. Seems like there is building trend on the e61 (especially a manual) right now.
I feel like there is a lot to go wrong on bmw wagons.
I feel like there is a lot to go wrong on bmw wagons.
#5
Oops... didn't realize that simply using the word "trading" would do that. I meant it as in, "is it worth me considering a switch to" rather than trying to actually make a trade.
#6
I drive a modified 535xi wagon as well and it is a monster. Hauls all the family stuff I need it to but blow doors off pesky muscle cars. I think you could sell yours right now on BaT and make a good bit of money. Seems like there is building trend on the e61 (especially a manual) right now.
I feel like there is a lot to go wrong on bmw wagons.
I feel like there is a lot to go wrong on bmw wagons.
#7
Keep your current wagon as a daily beater (seemed like it served you good) and save the mullah for a nice P Car.
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#8
I agree with this. While the 911 is the ultimate DD sportscar, I would not consider a 15-year old German car a reliable or practical DD (especially in the NE).
#10
Luckily (or unluckily!), I'm acclimated to daily-driving 14+ year-old German cars, so it wouldn't be -too- much of an adjustment. My wagon is fourteen years old. Preventative maintenance/repairs is so underrated!
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I used to have a house in VT and have ski’d/boarded most of the mountains. 911 would definitely need snow tires. One thing that you’d have to be cautious of, even with snow tires, is the amount of contact patch compared to the weight of the vehicle. The 911 is not ideal in that regard.
People covet performance wagons mostly because they have kids. It’s an alternative to an SUV that’s actually fun to drive. If you don’t have kids and all of their accessories to haul around, ditch that wagon immediately and get yourself a 911.
In your shoes I’d go rwd with a spare set of wheels with snow tires mounted. I drove plenty of rwd vehicles with the motor up front with all seasons in VT. It’s not fun but it’s possible. RR with snow tires should be just fine.
Although I’m not sure how dangerous 911 oversteer is in snow.
Only mountain I had trouble accessing with rwd is okemo. Main entrance is pretty steep. It’s not always plowed if you’re trying to go early for fresh powder.
People covet performance wagons mostly because they have kids. It’s an alternative to an SUV that’s actually fun to drive. If you don’t have kids and all of their accessories to haul around, ditch that wagon immediately and get yourself a 911.
In your shoes I’d go rwd with a spare set of wheels with snow tires mounted. I drove plenty of rwd vehicles with the motor up front with all seasons in VT. It’s not fun but it’s possible. RR with snow tires should be just fine.
Although I’m not sure how dangerous 911 oversteer is in snow.
Only mountain I had trouble accessing with rwd is okemo. Main entrance is pretty steep. It’s not always plowed if you’re trying to go early for fresh powder.
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