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So it is beaten by a lot? I guess lotus not so comfy but best for short run. Good to have both but.
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It awesome to have both and have so many great roads around to enjoy them on..
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I have been thinking the same thing. I am a newb to my 991TT and seeing all these folks modifying to get more HP and speed just boggles my mind. I keep telling myself "they have more money than sense". I don't get it. If you want a fast 1/4 straight line car there are so many other cheaper ways to do it and if you want to drive the twisty's there aren't many that can handle the current power and capabilities of the car.
I do enjoy reading the posts though. If and that's a big if I did anything to my stock platform it would be exhaust for sound and new wheels for looks, that's it.
I do enjoy reading the posts though. If and that's a big if I did anything to my stock platform it would be exhaust for sound and new wheels for looks, that's it.
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You can always use more power... 
But it is not always about the power sometimes it is about the huge smile on your face when you hear the most intoxicating exhaust tone coming from YOUR car. If you are looking for a little bit of both, our system is the perfect balance of performance and sound gains.
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Here is a perfect example, I still smile when i see it.
FABSPEED MOTORSPORT | Porsche 991 Turbo Supersport Performance Package - YouTube
But it is not always about the power sometimes it is about the huge smile on your face when you hear the most intoxicating exhaust tone coming from YOUR car. If you are looking for a little bit of both, our system is the perfect balance of performance and sound gains. Gains +37 horsepower and +47 ft/lbs of torque while shaving 15 lbs off of the rear of the car
Learn more about it on our website! Supersport Performance Package
Here is a perfect example, I still smile when i see it.
FABSPEED MOTORSPORT | Porsche 991 Turbo Supersport Performance Package - YouTube
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I have confidence in Porsche engineering and do not drive my car on a drag strip, so have no need for more power. I respect the prerogative of those who do modify their TT/TTS's and wish them well. Everything on the car from the factory is engineered to optimize performance with durability, including wheels. Porsche wheels are designed to optimize brake ventilation and while some aftermarket wheels are very attractive not one advertisement that I have seen for them mentions their ventilation properties, for example.
I encourage owners to take one or more courses at the Porsche Sport Driving School to better understand one's own limits, but also to fully plumb the capabilities of Porsche's. Unless one campaigns cars for racing, stock versions work very well on the street or at HPDE's.
The much derided stock TT/TTS exhaust system does not produce the sound some might like, but the long-term impact of aftermarket exhaust systems on engine durability may not be neutral. Same with the ride height of the TT/TTS. I drive my car in the real world so an inch or so lower without a front axle lift would be a problem for me. Perhaps an ECU tune will allow one to outgun a Huracan on the drag strip, but I'll leave that contest to others with the comfort that my engine is likely to last longer than a tuned version. Cynics may say that my perspective is just buying the Porsche marketing line that will prompt some of us to buy the next version that certainly will be faster and more powerful and if that is true then be it so.
I encourage owners to take one or more courses at the Porsche Sport Driving School to better understand one's own limits, but also to fully plumb the capabilities of Porsche's. Unless one campaigns cars for racing, stock versions work very well on the street or at HPDE's.
The much derided stock TT/TTS exhaust system does not produce the sound some might like, but the long-term impact of aftermarket exhaust systems on engine durability may not be neutral. Same with the ride height of the TT/TTS. I drive my car in the real world so an inch or so lower without a front axle lift would be a problem for me. Perhaps an ECU tune will allow one to outgun a Huracan on the drag strip, but I'll leave that contest to others with the comfort that my engine is likely to last longer than a tuned version. Cynics may say that my perspective is just buying the Porsche marketing line that will prompt some of us to buy the next version that certainly will be faster and more powerful and if that is true then be it so.
You also have to keep in mind porsche cares more about making money. They are the most profitable car company for a reason. If they wanted to, they could offer all these improvements and render the aftermarket obsolete, but then they wouldn't make 24k on each car they sell. They are in the business to make money.
Aftermarket wheels such as HRE do have optimized designs for not only weight, but cooling. You can see this with the p40 or p101 design.
And a proper tune is fine on the engine over the long term, if the internals aren't stressed. And again it improves the car for performance. Porsche designs the car for their target customer. Which is someone above the age of 50. These people don't care too much about having really fast hp. They just want something nice and comfortable that they can have fun in.
Us enthusiast, who buy this car then modify it are the minority. Porsche won't build a car to satisfy us. Maybe you see that in the GT series. There aren't really many mods you need to do to any of those. Also that is where ferrari and lamborghini come in. And there are aftermarket exhausts, that far exceed the quality of OEM.
So yes those who say the car is perfect as it, that is exactly what porsche wants you to believe. So they can keep making their 24k every time you buy a new one. And at the end of the day, the rest of the world still hasn't caught up to them. There are hardly any cars that are comparable to a porsche for performance, practicality, and fun for the price. Not to mention quality. So what incentive do they have to cut in their profit margins to make us minority enthusiast happy? None, really. They have a monopoly practically for now.
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It isn't necessarily about more power. Doing the tune (at least for cobb) makes the power come on very linearly. One of the things I hate in this car is the lag. I also hate you have to get to 3k RPM before it makes real power and torque. But with the tune, the power is completely linear. This in turn will actually give you better control with the power. The car can handle another 50-70hp easily. Just get a DSC, wider tires, light rims, maybe some sways and your good. You could even get lower control arms for better off the line traction as well.
Please post up a picture of your car I'd like to see it maybe put a glass of water on the roof...
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It isn't necessarily about more power. Doing the tune (at least for cobb) makes the power come on very linearly. One of the things I hate in this car is the lag. I also hate you have to get to 3k RPM before it makes real power and torque. But with the tune, the power is completely linear. This in turn will actually give you better control with the power. The car can handle another 50-70hp easily. Just get a DSC, wider tires, light rims, maybe some sways and your good. You could even get lower control arms for better off the line traction as well.
You also have to keep in mind porsche cares more about making money. They are the most profitable car company for a reason. If they wanted to, they could offer all these improvements and render the aftermarket obsolete, but then they wouldn't make 24k on each car they sell. They are in the business to make money.
Aftermarket wheels such as HRE do have optimized designs for not only weight, but cooling. You can see this with the p40 or p101 design.
And a proper tune is fine on the engine over the long term, if the internals aren't stressed. And again it improves the car for performance. Porsche designs the car for their target customer. Which is someone above the age of 50. These people don't care too much about having really fast hp. They just want something nice and comfortable that they can have fun in.
Us enthusiast, who buy this car then modify it are the minority. Porsche won't build a car to satisfy us. Maybe you see that in the GT series. There aren't really many mods you need to do to any of those. Also that is where ferrari and lamborghini come in. And there are aftermarket exhausts, that far exceed the quality of OEM.
So yes those who say the car is perfect as it, that is exactly what porsche wants you to believe. So they can keep making their 24k every time you buy a new one. And at the end of the day, the rest of the world still hasn't caught up to them. There are hardly any cars that are comparable to a porsche for performance, practicality, and fun for the price. Not to mention quality. So what incentive do they have to cut in their profit margins to make us minority enthusiast happy? None, really. They have a monopoly practically for now.
Aftermarket wheels such as HRE do have optimized designs for not only weight, but cooling. You can see this with the p40 or p101 design.
And a proper tune is fine on the engine over the long term, if the internals aren't stressed. And again it improves the car for performance. Porsche designs the car for their target customer. Which is someone above the age of 50. These people don't care too much about having really fast hp. They just want something nice and comfortable that they can have fun in.
Us enthusiast, who buy this car then modify it are the minority. Porsche won't build a car to satisfy us. Maybe you see that in the GT series. There aren't really many mods you need to do to any of those. Also that is where ferrari and lamborghini come in. And there are aftermarket exhausts, that far exceed the quality of OEM.
So yes those who say the car is perfect as it, that is exactly what porsche wants you to believe. So they can keep making their 24k every time you buy a new one. And at the end of the day, the rest of the world still hasn't caught up to them. There are hardly any cars that are comparable to a porsche for performance, practicality, and fun for the price. Not to mention quality. So what incentive do they have to cut in their profit margins to make us minority enthusiast happy? None, really. They have a monopoly practically for now.
Ooo what ridiculous talk now? Yes ok I too must ask now when is "enough" "enough"?
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I have a .2 TTS. I was talking about a tune in general, about how it isn't all about power. You can use the search tool to find pics and videos of my car.
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It isn't necessarily about more power. Doing the tune (at least for cobb) makes the power come on very linearly. One of the things I hate in this car is the lag. I also hate you have to get to 3k RPM before it makes real power and torque. But with the tune, the power is completely linear. This in turn will actually give you better control with the power. The car can handle another 50-70hp easily. Just get a DSC, wider tires, light rims, maybe some sways and your good. You could even get lower control arms for better off the line traction as well.
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lol. I won't argue. Too many threads that give the same advice. Do what makes you happy.
Well that is a pretty drastic change in the tune then for the 991. I'm glad they finally made a turbo car have a completely linear power band. Though when I look at stock dyne sheets I don't see a majority of torque coming on at 1500 RPM like a true linear power band would be.
Well that is a pretty drastic change in the tune then for the 991. I'm glad they finally made a turbo car have a completely linear power band. Though when I look at stock dyne sheets I don't see a majority of torque coming on at 1500 RPM like a true linear power band would be.