GIAC Tuned/meth 997.2 TTS Defeats Turbo Upgrade/FBO 991 Turbo S with Cobb Accessport

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Old Dec 3, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by White991TT
The red car had big issues! 154 trap in the half mile.

My By Design Cobb stage III car had the best 991 trap speed on Sat at this event. My stage IV Turbo car with Cobb AP will be at the 1/4 mile event in Bakersfield next week and Shift Sector 1/2 mile event in Feb. With my By Design/ Cobb AP, I always point my one GoPro looking back. LOL!
Would love to see your car hit 170. Or at least 168 or higher
 
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Yes I agree and can confirm.... the car is while even in a "mild" tuned configuration, faster than 99% of the cars at these events. Meanwhile Sam/ Cobb via the AP has made the car a superb daily driver with stock like drive ability. A virtue very difficult to achieve in most race applications especially a car that will trap 170 in the 1/2.
 
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Well honestly no body knows what Long have under the hood LOL


But yeah, if that red car have upgrade turbos is very slow... In my 1/2 mile event a VRtune 991 did 161mph (tune only) Long is around 164mph, IMHO a upgrade it turbo 991 will walk him
 

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Originally Posted by White991TT
Yes I agree and can confirm.... the car is while even in a "mild" tuned configuration, faster than 99% of the cars at these events. Meanwhile Sam/ Cobb via the AP has made the car a superb daily driver with stock like drive ability. A virtue very difficult to achieve in most race applications especially a car that will trap 170 in the 1/2.
Yeah... But hopefully we don't have to wait until Feb to see what a Sambo upgrade it Turbo can do in the 1/2 Mile

If everything go well I will go to the airport before the year end and see what my baby can do in the 1/2
 
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Originally Posted by webcarconnection
Well honestly no body knows what Long have under the hood LOL


But yeah, if that red car have upgrade turbos is very slow... In my 1/2 mile event a tune 991 did 161mph, Long is around 164mph, IMHO a upgrade it turbo 991 will walk him
The Cobb Stage 3 and GIAC Stage 2+ cars (which have stock turbos) both trapped in the 164s at ShiftSector. I would expect 168-170 from a turbo upgrade 991 Turbo/Turbo S
 
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Yeah a lot of hard work and dedication from the entire team on this one including you Nigel and out other clients. Can't wait to stretch it's legs my friend! It will be like a test and tune for us.
 
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
The Cobb Stage 3 and GIAC Stage 2+ cars (which have stock turbos) both trapped in the 164s at ShiftSector. I would expect 168-170 from a turbo upgrade 991 Turbo/Turbo S
Expectation met! (just dont ask me how I know)
 
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
The Cobb Stage 3 and GIAC Stage 2+ cars (which have stock turbos) both trapped in the 164s at ShiftSector. I would expect 168-170 from a turbo upgrade 991 Turbo/Turbo S
Yes, that's why I said that a upgrade it Turbo will walk Long for sure... But if you ask me, I believe eaither you or a stg 3 Sam/Cobb can win also (nothing against my buddy Long, ok? Lol)
 
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Originally Posted by White991TT
Expectation met! (just dont ask me how I know)
Lol... seriously, how do you know???
 
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
154? Yikes. My E63 S with a Renntech tune and mufflers would beat it. That seems more like a stock number
Close, here was mine in Sep 2014 with just the exhaust. It trapped 151 at 17.3 which is with Vbox. About three months later with the FVD piggyback I had a trap of 155 at 16.85 but I cut the speed too early and my top speed in the run was 156.3 while the terminal was 151. That is the second graph.
 
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Originally Posted by wrs
Close, here was mine in Sep 2014 with just the exhaust. It trapped 151 at 17.3 which is with Vbox. About three months later with the FVD piggyback I had a trap of 155 at 16.85 but I cut the speed too early and my top speed in the run was 156.3 while the terminal was 151. That is the second graph.
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
Sam...I think the point was not so much to make it a Cobb vs GIAC thing, but to show (or ask why) 991 Turbo cars with upgraded turbos are still not matching 997.2 cars with full bolt ons and stock turbos....yet. If that 991 had upgraded VTG's then it should have been leaps and bounds faster then Adam's car, one would think. Especially since you say the Stage 3 was so close, if not just as fast as Adam all day.

My question would be what type of upgraded VTG's it had? That could make a big difference in what kind of power it's making.
I think the 991 platform is as quick if not quicker than the 997.2 Adam did demolish me off the start, but on both our runs I was gaining on him and finished with higher trap speeds. I know he was having issues with his race tune but he also has meth. i think mod for mod my 991 will beat a 997.2 even with these tiny turbos Porsche decided to screw us with.
 


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