3 bar map sensor - orientation wrong, how to install?

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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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3 bar map sensor - orientation wrong, how to install?

I'm posting this here because 991's should be the same.

On the 997.2 Turbo S there are 2 MAP sensors, one pre throttle body and one post the throttle body on one side of the intake manifold. I bought two 3 bar Bosch MAP sensors from my tuner which I believe is the same ones that Cobb sells. The two 3 bar ones are identical.

The OEM and 3bar sensor on the pre-TB side is shaped exactly the same, with the little 90 degree bend.

However, the post TB one is different. See below pic. The blue is the new 3bar sensor, and the OEM 2.5bar one. Notice the shape and orientation. The OEM is a long 180 degree sensor, while the 3bar has a 90 degree bend.

If you lined up the screw holes, the orientation of the female end of the plug would switch sides and thus NOT allowing the engine/ECU wiring harness to reach the female end of the plug. It's physically impossible. The only way I would think is to cut open the wiring harness and somehow try to pull that wire out longer.

Questions:
1) Are all 3bar map sensors oriented this way? i.e can I find a 3bar map sensor that is shaped like the OEM one?
2) If you have installed this 90 degree one post the TB, how did you get it to plug in?

This is seriously a PITA. I really don't want to cut open my main wiring harness.

 
Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:08 PM
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What year is your car? That's strange, both mine were the same and I had no issues
My 3 bar sensors are exactly the same shape as my OEM ones though
 
Old Apr 27, 2016 | 08:13 PM
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What year is your car? That's strange, both mine were the same and I had no issues
My 3 bar sensors are exactly the same shape as my OEM ones though
It's a 997.2 made in August 2012. Worldwide it's a 2012 model but in the US considered a 2013. However, I don't even think the US got any 2013 997.2's.

Were your OEM map sensors both with the 90 degree bends?
 
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Originally Posted by changster
It's a 997.2 made in August 2012. Worldwide it's a 2012 model but in the US considered a 2013. However, I don't even think the US got any 2013 997.2's.

Were your OEM map sensors both with the 90 degree bends?
Off the top of my head I don't remember. It's been over a year since I put them in. Let me see if I can dig up some old pics or some thing. One way or another you will get sorted though. My sensors were simple plug and play replacements with no drama. Yours shouldn't be any different
 
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Originally Posted by ecpChris
Off the top of my head I don't remember. It's been over a year since I put them in. Let me see if I can dig up some old pics or some thing. One way or another you will get sorted though. My sensors were simple plug and play replacements with no drama. Yours shouldn't be any different
Hmmm ok that would be very much appreciated if you get the info.

I feel like Porsche models worldwide may have very small differences. Maybe it's also because this is one of the last cars before they transitioned to the 991 Turbo's. I'm wondering if they changed their production somehow.
 
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Originally Posted by changster
Hmmm ok that would be very much appreciated if you get the info.

I feel like Porsche models worldwide may have very small differences. Maybe it's also because this is one of the last cars before they transitioned to the 991 Turbo's. I'm wondering if they changed their production somehow.
Check with Akunob or do a search for threads he started. He has a 2013 TS and I believe he had this same issue. If my memory serves 2013 is an odd transitional year and has an oddball map sensor.
 
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It's looking like not all these cars have the same sensors especially in the later models. I have a rare 6speed .2 at the shop and will try to take a look at it. The 991's are still different and read up to 3bar.
 
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Originally Posted by SamboTT@ByDesign
It's looking like not all these cars have the same sensors especially in the later models. I have a rare 6speed .2 at the shop and will try to take a look at it. The 991's are still different and read up to 3bar.

Sam is correct, there is a VIN-break during the production of the 997.2 turbo cars. Some use the same sensor on the y-pipe and intake manifold, some use a different sensor on the manifold. You'll need to check by VIN number to see what your car needs.
 
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Interesting as I was looking around about this as well. What's the easiest place to verify these online?
 
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Generally we see that 2013 Turbo cars have a different map sensor and need an adapter bracket for them to work. BBI sells them if you need.

Thanks,

-Mitch
 
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Originally Posted by COBB Tuning
Generally we see that 2013 Turbo cars have a different map sensor and need an adapter bracket for them to work. BBI sells them if you need.

Thanks,

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Some 2012's as well. I've got a 2012 in the shop that has different sensors. Using the VIN should tell for sure.
 
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guys where i can buy the adapter ? someone got a bosch number maybe ?? becouse shipping from america takes long time :/
 
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Mines a 2012 and need the harness extension to fit the COBB 3 bar Map on the side near the air intake tube.


https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pr...oducts_id/3386


This is the one I ordered direct from Ballenger Motorsports. Works perfectly to extend cable length for the new 3Bar MAP.
 
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Originally Posted by changster
It's a 997.2 made in August 2012. Worldwide it's a 2012 model but in the US considered a 2013. However, I don't even think the US got any 2013 997.2's.

Were your OEM map sensors both with the 90 degree bends?


There are several 2013 997.2 TTS's here in the US.
 
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i got a 2011 tt and i have 2 different sensors so 2011 november models are included too
 
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