I was originally locked on getting a 991.1 Turbo S but as more 991.2 used cars are hitting the market, it is possible to get a 991.2 Non-S for about the same price as the 991.1 Turbo S. I know the key differences in base equipment but wondering if there's any advise to help me decide from people that have driven both. I will track the car a few times a year so not a fan of PCCB and will likely switch to regular rotors if I get the Turbo S. Thanks!

 

Easy .2. It has the better tech and steering wheel. A simple tune gets the HP up to the S.

 

Thanks - by the way, I am thinking that the only MUST have on a 991.2 non-S would be PDCC. Any other?

 

No not at all. For road and light track, Porsche's non-PDCC is fine and less expensive to maintain. If no track, definitely don't get PDCC

 

 

the .2 without question.

 

 

I like the subtle updates to both the interior and exterior on the 991.2. With the updates it won't look as dated when the new redesign comes out about 1.5 years away.

Also, I think the .1's and .2's drive differently. The .2's seem to have even less lag then the .1 and the updated software in the .2 helps that.

The thing I love about the Turbo S in general is the utilization of the 4 wheel steer. If you never had it, you won't miss it. But if you owned one with it, it really does change things.

 

 

Go with the .2.

You won't know what you're missing without the PCCBs. And the PCM upgrade is worth it itself.

 

 

Got some new stuff to share with you and a gent to introduce you to D!

 

 

I had a 2017 C4S before I got my 2015 Turbo S.

I thought about doing the same as CPO'd Turbo S inventory is pretty scarce right now. I spent some time in the .2 Turbo cars to see if it was really something I wanted to do.

Here's my thoughts:

- initially, the .2 is a no brainer. New navigation, and the new steering wheel alone make a pretty big difference. The steering wheel is something you touch every single time you operate the car and the .2 steering wheel is undoutably nicer, especially if you get a multi function. Feels nicer in the hand, although does block some of the outer gauges.

- the newer PCM is definitely better. You gotta decide how much this matters to you. It doesn't sound any better (although the bluetooth streaming sounds way better, PCM in the .1 must use a crappier A2DP profile or something) and it doesn't actually do much differently except for Carplay, etc. I never end up using the built in navigation and the newer PCM's maps aren't that great looking if you're coming out of a modern BMW/Mercedes/Audi/etc. (we have a 2017 MB e300 that is world's better).

- The last thing to consider and it is what made the difference to me - a used .2 is probably $145-$160k depending on options, and a new one is even more. The base non-turbo has a lot further to fall depreciation-wise. If you look at the .1, where there is even less difference (the .1 Turbo and Turbo S use the same hardware just different tunes, where the .2 Turbo uses smaller turbos than the .2 Turbo S)... there may be even more resale differences with the .2. This could be offset somewhat by reduced Turbo/Turbo S production, though.

But, if you look at .1, the Turbo is probably 7-10% cheaper than a same miles same option Turbo S. This is a pretty significant delta, considering the .1 Turbo S in CPO can be had for ~$120k - for a reasonable mileage out of factory warranty into CPO 2014, to $145k (15-16 with 1-2 years of factory warranty + CPO). If you are going to keep the car more than 5 years, then the deltas will largely go away, when the cars come out of warranty but for those like me who like factory warranties, a .1 CPO is the way to go.

The steering wheel can be swapped, but the .1 wheel isn't bad. And PCM, while a big difference if you look at it, made very little difference in the way I actually use the car since I use my phone for nav. (I use Google Maps or Waze most of the time, and CarPlay doesn't support them) There might be a bigger difference if you are an Android user.

 

There are plenty more differences within the .1 -> .2 models.

- updated head design with revised intake ports
- larger fuel injectors
- higher-volume fuel system w/higher pressure
- more efficient intercoolers
- updated turbos
- *.2 S gets larger turbos, if you mod this may be key.
- anti-lag has been improved
- chassis has been improved
- steering was improved for feel
- slightly different look - it is *not* identical body-wise
- some updated engine components
- updated PDK (tougher valving etc., common upgrade for .1)
- different wheel design, which I prefer, slightly wider too on Turbo
- revised headlights
- new intake & intake deck design
- slightly lowered
- slightly better fuel milage from above
- PSM Sport Mode is more sporty than .1 in terms of wheel slip
- PDCC standard on S model now
- front axle lift available now
- radar-based lane change warning available


This is in addition to aforementioned PCM updates. The nav is considerably better as is the media station. It supports "apps" etc. Many have said the car is more connected to the road and overall more enjoyable to drive than the .1 car as delivered standard. Of course, opinions vary and so do degrees. For me, the 918 steering wheel and Crono wheel are no small addition.

Not much more to add, but I did a pile of research before buying my car and like an idiot, I found a 991.2 barely used ... the rest is history.