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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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Which 991 color is this?

Hi!

Which color is this - please. It's too dark for agate grey - isn't it?

Here are some more :

http://www.autogespot.nl/porsche-991...012/09/25#img1


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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Seems to me it's Agate grey.

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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 03:01 PM
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Hard to tell with the lighting. Atlas Grey Metallic?
 
Old Sep 25, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Agate under certain lighting conditions appears a dullish darker grey... One reason I didn't go for it.
 
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It's not Agate -- it has a blue hue in the rear shots which Agate doesn't have at all.

I think it's custom paint but hard to tell. Also, the car has PCCB's which on balance, IMHO, make it more likely than usual that it would have custom paint (both pricey, non-essential options).
 
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I'm about 98% sure it's Agate. Pictures look to be taken at dusk,...and that lighting tends to mess with colors a bit.
 
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Dark blue metallic. At night you would have a heck of time differentiating it from black.
 
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Take a look at pix 4 & 8 from the link,....def not dark blue, Agate or something very close to it. I had an Atlas Grey car,....and that would look almost black in this lighting.
I think it is a very deeply polished Agate example.
 
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Agate like mine. Color is always different depending on the lighting.
 
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I'd venture to say it's Agathe--or something made to order that's very close to it and, in particular, gray.

Remember, this is more than likely a digital camera on auto exposure and auto whitebalance, both of which distort colors very easily. In addition, the clearcoat is engineered to be highly reflective and iridescent. Below are 4 different attempts to neutralize the first two factors and bring out the third (numbers are the same as in the original post):
  1. 4.jpg: Here I corrected for whitebalance. Note that we know that the tires are black (and fairly non-reflective), so I ensured they read as black. We also can be fairly certain that the VW in the back is white (as well as dull), so I ensured its brightest spots read as black. Voilā, the car looks very much like Agathe.
  2. 3.jpg: Again, correction for whitebalance, just to make sure the before wasn't a fluke. Tires black, house number white. Same result.
  3. 5.jpg: Correction for brightness. Note how the original looks very blue. Again, the Smart in the back is white, so I again set it to read white. Then I cranked up the brightness to lift the shaded car side into the low midrange. Note that expanding the tonal curve in such a crude manner does increase saturation in the shadows, yet the car remains neutral. Again, Agathe.
  4. 1.jpg: Finally, to double-check the previous result, I set the whitepoint to the gray inside of the wheel (which also doubles the contrast). Note how the previously mentioned effect is very pronounced: the car is gray, but the blue reflections in the hood are exaggerated, hence clearly visible as reflections.

None of this is conclusive proof, of course, but it makes Agathe quite plausible.
 
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Agate grey
 
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Hi!

Thank you for your answers .... here are three more links matching exactly the same car .... it seems in Dordrecht -NL- he is a famous guy

http://www.autogespot.nl/porsche-991...s-1/2012/09/03

http://www.autogespot.nl/porsche-991...s-1/2012/05/12

http://www.autogespot.nl/porsche-991...a-s/2012/02/21


On all pics it seems it is darker than agate grey ....

By the way a beautiful color ....


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Still Agathe. The photos are just underexposed (again, auto exposure with bright white sky or sun in the picture -> underexposed car).
 
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Hmmm ... but 4 different spotters .... and all had the same light conditions with underexposed pictures? This is really unlikely - isnīt it?


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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Hmmm ... but 4 different spotters .... and all had the same light conditions with underexposed pictures? This is really unlikely - isnīt it?
Not necessarily. It's not that all cameras underexpose (although that might be the case) but rather that all scenes are high-contrast with either the sun or a bright white overcast sky directly in the picture or a specular reflection of them on the highly reflective car coat or windows. All are many stops brighter than the car itself and depending on the area they make up in the picture, the multi-segment auto-exposure meter tries to bring those bright areas "into" the picture exposure range by skewing it towards the bright areas and dropping the rest a bit into darkness. The result can look sometimes interesting, like a low-key portrait; it doesn't have to look blatantly "underexposed" (although you'll often notice that what should be white is not white but medium gray, etc.). That's why you are supposed to overexpose by a stop or so in the snow--the camera doesn't know it's supposed to be bright white and attempts to make it look medium gray. That's how meters work.

I didn't realize the three links above were all different. I just looked at the rest of them and am pretty sure they are all the same Agathe or some custom gray that's very close to it. It's blue when the blue sky is reflected, golden when the golden sun is reflected, and very much Agathe grey when there is nothing bright in the picture.
 


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