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Old Oct 16, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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Pm for price for a c2s
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SUNNY991
why cant we get the price, why must we get a pm to get price.?

are you giving different prices to different cars(cab,cabS 4,4S? etc)

why not just give a price so we all can see, and then we dont have to wait for a pm back...
Probably forum rules...
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 09:48 AM
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All,

The computer must be sent to GIAC directly for the flash. They need it for a few hours then it can be drop shipped back to you or whomever took the computer out of the car for you. If you were coming to our location is Willow Grove, PA we would charge a nominal labor fee to remove the computer and whatever the shipping was to and from GIAC.

The retail price of the flash is $1800.

So if you come to me, you drop the car off, I overnight the computer, they flash it, then send it back to me overnight for reinstallation.

If you are out of state, you could pull the computer yourself, pay us, then I coordinate with you on sending the computer direct to GIAC.

Very simple.

Email is best for me, so hit me up if you have further questions or would like to proceed.

Mike@AWE-Tuning.com

Hope this helps!
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SUNNY991
why cant we get the price, why must we get a pm to get price.?

are you giving different prices to different cars(cab,cabS 4,4S? etc)

why not just give a price so we all can see, and then we dont have to wait for a pm back...
Pricing is not posted due to forum rules.
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Does GIAC void your warranty or any part of it?
I don't recall seeing a response to this earlier question.
Thanks in advance.
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dux
I don't recall seeing a response to this earlier question.
Thanks in advance.
We nor GIAC can answer that. You would have to contact the dealership that services your vehicle.

Some dealers will support, sell, and install aftermarket parts with great pleasure while others want nothing to do with it and will hassle you for anything done to the car.

The tide has shifted, though. When I first started here 13 years ago, trying to get a dealer to sell your stuff was almost impossible and if you finally found a dealer that was friendly to it, it was like winning the lottery.

Now, dealer employees are more savvy to the real players in the market. They know who the winners and losers are and who makes the best stuff. They know that they can make money on the sale of this stuff, too. So finding a dealer that is forward thinking and has embraced the aftermarket is far more common these days. I even have a few dealers that have specific motorsport departments that only sell aftermarket parts!

Hope that is helpful.
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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Mike, thanks for the response.
I was under the impression that Porsche GmbH and PCNA have the ultimate say in this matter and not the individual dealers. After all, they are the ones who would honor the factory warranty.

If an issue were to arise, we can safely assume that all fingers would point to me and the turner in question, and any manufacturer would leap through the exit clause, thereby relinquishing all liability.

I am very interested in this particular product, but will need to investigate the ramifications on my rather valuable 7/100 warranty.

Thanks again.
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dux
Mike, thanks for the response.
I was under the impression that Porsche GmbH and PCNA have the ultimate say in this matter and not the individual dealers. After all, they are the ones who would honor the factory warranty.

If an issue were to arise, we can safely assume that all fingers would point to me and the turner in question, and any manufacturer would leap through the exit clause, thereby relinquishing all liability.

I am very interested in this particular product, but will need to investigate the ramifications on my rather valuable 7/100 warranty.

Thanks again.
Like Mike said, it would really come down to the dealer and/or higher up. Have we had issues with factory warranties in the past? No, but I still can't say with 100% certainty how each vehicle will be treated. We have seen manufacturers attempt to void warranties just for driving habits.

We do have OEM Porsche dealers who carry our products, and as such we are constantly updated as to the status of issues like this. So far, no issues and I don't anticipate any.
 
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Originally Posted by dux
Mike, thanks for the response.
I was under the impression that Porsche GmbH and PCNA have the ultimate say in this matter and not the individual dealers. After all, they are the ones who would honor the factory warranty.

If an issue were to arise, we can safely assume that all fingers would point to me and the turner in question, and any manufacturer would leap through the exit clause, thereby relinquishing all liability.

I am very interested in this particular product, but will need to investigate the ramifications on my rather valuable 7/100 warranty.

Thanks again.
They do, but only if it gets that far up the chain. Keep in mind that there are many buffers in between. Some of these will work with dealers and clients to keep people happy. Outcomes are not always negative.
 
Old Oct 16, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Thank you gentlemen.
I appreciate your candor and all the info provided.
 
Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Thank you gentlemen.
I appreciate your candor and all the info provided.
The flip side of the coin is that you can purchase the software as part of a power kit from us, and you'll get the peace of mind of our Champion Motorsport warranty, so you don't really have to worry about your factory warranty.

http://championmotorsportonline.com/...yagreement.pdf
 
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Originally Posted by Tom@Champion
The flip side of the coin is that you can purchase the software as part of a power kit from us, and you'll get the peace of mind of our Champion Motorsport warranty, so you don't really have to worry about your factory warranty.

http://championmotorsportonline.com/...yagreement.pdf
Any more info on the powerkit? I went to your website and only kits for the 997 line... Thanks!
 
Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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To clarify on some questions, the 991 and 991S software can be purchased through any GIAC dealer. The dealer can coordinate ECU removal and shipping to us. For those local to us (Irvine, CA) feel free to contact me directly and I can work out the details for you.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike/AWE
They do, but only if it gets that far up the chain. Keep in mind that there are many buffers in between. Some of these will work with dealers and clients to keep people happy. Outcomes are not always negative.
Does PCNA get involved in routine warranty claims? Of course not. But you can/should certainly expect that they would in the case of a blown engine or tranny.

If you want a clue as to how PCNA would react to a car with an aftermarket tune and blown motor/tranny, do some googling into how Porsche has in recent months aggressively sued and actually bankrupted multiple tuners (of all kinds).
 
Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Any 991's in the area that need a flash give us a call.. GMG has been a partner to GIAC for 10 years...

In house state of the art 4wd test cell as well.

We are offering specials on Dyno/Software packages.


Email fabryce@gmgracing.com for more info or to book your appointment.
 

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