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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Hey guys,

This weekend I will have a long layover in Frankfurt, and as luck would have it, when you fly Lufthansa First Class through Frankfurt, they have arranged a sweet deal with Avis.

For 99 Euro, you can rent a 2013 Porsche 911 for up to 3 hours. It includes gas, insurance, and up to 150km's (I plan to go over but not too much because the rate is 1 Euro per km).

Needless to say, it has been a bucket list item to drive a 911 on the autobahn (prior driving experiences with the autobahn have been in mere Mercedes wagons). My layover will also be during Sunday morning which my research shows is one of the best times due to low traffic/congestion. Even the weather is looking good, so I hope it all lines up.


What are some tips/knowledge that will allow me to get the full experience? I believe they are all PDK (no standard transmissions). I also plan to test out the launch control 2-3 times

Thanks in advance, and I'll write up the experience so that fellow 6Speeders can have some insight when they experience the dream when they pass through Frankfurt.
 
Old Dec 10, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Most of the Autobahns out of Frankfurt are unlimited. It would be tight to do it in 3 hours but you could take the A3 north toward Koblenz and maybe make it to the Nurburgring and back (about 200 miles rt but wont have much time for sightseeing while your there). If it's a nice day, the locals will be running their cars.

Your strict 150 K limit is going to restrict your fun however. Cruising in a 911 at 130-150 mph is going to eat up that 150 kilometer limit in less than 45 minutes. For example, on a early Sat morning we made the roughly 100 Km stretch from just outside Frankfurt to just south of Koblenz in just over 30min.

I gotta say it's not a "relaxing" drive on an A road at 120+mph for any length of time. I was exhausted after each drive. Especially the 4 lanes. You still have folks cruising at 80 as well as the Ferrari's etc that flash you over coming on at 150+mph.

If you have more time, it's only 120 miles ( 1+ hour) down A5 to Stuttgart and the Porsche Museum. Have a great trip! I'm headin back early March and hope to drive the Ring!


Here's a map we used on our last trip:
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/Limitkarte.pdf
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/LegendeLimit_e.pdf
 

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Being extremely industrial, the autobahns near and around Frankfurt are always crowded even on Sundays. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the autobahns in that area of Germany had speed limits. It was the autobahns more south (Bavaria) heading towards Austria, where you could find speedlimitless stretches.
 
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Originally Posted by Scooper
Most of the Autobahns out of Frankfurt are unlimited. It would be tight to do it in 3 hours but you could take the A3 north toward Koblenz and maybe make it to the Nurburgring and back (about 200 miles rt but wont have much time for sightseeing while your there). If it's a nice day, the locals will be running their cars.

Your strict 150 K limit is going to restrict your fun however. Cruising in a 911 at 130-150 mph is going to eat up that 150 kilometer limit in less than 45 minutes. For example, on a early Sat morning we made the roughly 100 Km stretch from just outside Frankfurt to just south of Koblenz in just over 30min.

I gotta say it's not a "relaxing" drive on an A road at 120+mph for any length of time. I was exhausted after each drive. Especially the 4 lanes. You still have folks cruising at 80 as well as the Ferrari's etc that flash you over coming on at 150+mph.

If you have more time, it's only 120 miles ( 1+ hour) down A5 to Stuttgart and the Porsche Museum. Have a great trip! I'm headin back early March and hope to drive the Ring!


Here's a map we used on our last trip:
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/Limitkarte.pdf
http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/LegendeLimit_e.pdf
Thanks for the great info. I'll probably avoid the Ring because of that dastardly 150km limit, but I plan to go out there sometime in my life.

I agree that 150km is tight. My goal is to do 2-3 "fast runs" and a few launches. I figure I'll try to take some nice pics around the Main.

I enjoy driving in Europe far better than the USA. There seems to be minimal lazy/distracted drivers, and I love the communication with blinkers. This will be my first go in a Porsche. Thanks for the maps
 
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Originally Posted by lrattner
Being extremely industrial, the autobahns near and around Frankfurt are always crowded even on Sundays. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that the autobahns in that area of Germany had speed limits. It was the autobahns more south (Bavaria) heading towards Austria, where you could find speedlimitless stretches.
Thanks for the insight. I'll take a look at the maps posted above to keep me out of trouble
 
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Instead of mindless Autobahn racing, why don't you take her into the Taunus range north of F? Do your launches on the way there, then enjoy the car on GOOD streets (not sure where you are located, but here in CA the streets remind me of Yemen) populated with GOOD drivers.

Keep in mind that 150km at 300kmh = 30 minutes whereas it's 90 minutes at 100kmh on mountain twisties. Plus, the scenery is stunning.

https://www.google.com/search?q=taunus+germany
 
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Instead of mindless Autobahn racing, why don't you take her into the Taunus range north of F? Do your launches on the way there, then enjoy the car on GOOD streets (not sure where you are located, but here in CA the streets remind me of Yemen) populated with GOOD drivers. Keep in mind that 150km at 300kmh = 30 minutes whereas it's 90 minutes at 100kmh on mountain twisties. Plus, the scenery is stunning. https://www.google.com/search?q=taunus+germany
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Autobahn is really boring. I know, because I have traveled there a lot between Switzerland and Belgium and still do!! Haha

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Autobahn is really boring. I know, because I have traveled there a lot between Switzerland and Belgium and still do!! Haha

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Of course you get to do stuff like the http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schanfiggerstrasse and other goodies around Graubünden and Engadin
 
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The only difference about Autobahn Sunday traffic is the lack of trucks. Lots of traffic. I've had rental 911's from Avis 5 times now and just pay the km charge. I think you'll need to get a long way out of Frankfurt to be able to get to the 200km per hour range. One of the cars I rented started with only 12km on it. Would have been very negligent to attempt launch control on a car that new.
 
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Originally Posted by Porscheboy16
Hey guys,

This weekend I will have a long layover in Frankfurt, and as luck would have it, when you fly Lufthansa First Class through Frankfurt, they have arranged a sweet deal with Avis.

For 99 Euro, you can rent a 2013 Porsche 911 for up to 3 hours. It includes gas, insurance, and up to 150km's (I plan to go over but not too much because the rate is 1 Euro per km).

Needless to say, it has been a bucket list item to drive a 911 on the autobahn (prior driving experiences with the autobahn have been in mere Mercedes wagons). My layover will also be during Sunday morning which my research shows is one of the best times due to low traffic/congestion. Even the weather is looking good, so I hope it all lines up.


What are some tips/knowledge that will allow me to get the full experience? I believe they are all PDK (no standard transmissions). I also plan to test out the launch control 2-3 times

Thanks in advance, and I'll write up the experience so that fellow 6Speeders can have some insight when they experience the dream when they pass through Frankfurt.

That 99Euro rate is about 50% of the 24 hour rate which from memory is 200Euro. with 200km included.
 
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