996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

RS6 vs 996TT - observations

Old May 17, 2004 | 11:56 PM
  #1  
NWturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 423
Rep Power: 67
NWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond repute
RS6 vs 996TT - observations

Hi all:

Finally had a chance to test my RS6 against my Turbo on a nice deserted stretch of highway early in the morning. My buddy drove the RS6 while I was in the 996. Nice dry day.


RS6: Enhanced exhaust is very sporty. Sounds like an American muscel car. Comfortable but not too floaty. Nose heavy and understeers at the limit. Great daily driver. 450hp (5600 - 6500rpm)/415torque (1900 rpm - 5500rpm)

Turbo: The perfect driving experience just not an everyday daily driver for me. Stock.

0-60

996 pulls away from the RS6 in every gear. By fourth gear, I am at least 10 cars ahead. RS6 suffers from noticable lag starting from a standstill.

Roll at 50 mph:

RS6 does better but 996 is still convincingly faster.

RS6 leads with 996 behind:

With a 1 sec head start, the lag is eliminated from the RS6 so in this scenario, it takes 3rd gear to catch up and pass the RS6, and that is probably around 100 mph.

Clearly, the RS6 is no replacement but it comes as close as it can get to a 4-door 911 turbo.
 
Attached Images  
Old May 18, 2004 | 12:01 AM
  #2  
NWturbo's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 423
Rep Power: 67
NWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond reputeNWturbo has a reputation beyond repute
.

.
 
Attached Images  
Old May 18, 2004 | 12:08 AM
  #3  
ColorChange's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,095
From: Chicago
Rep Power: 146
ColorChange is infamous around these parts
E55 ... closer still.
 
Old May 18, 2004 | 12:20 AM
  #4  
Bill S's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 444
Rep Power: 41
Bill S has a spectacular aura aboutBill S has a spectacular aura about
Your observations show why street competitions do not really prove who's car is faster unless they both start exactly the same. With close cars, even a 1-second delay on flooring it can make the slower car seem much faster. However, if you have a very fast car (e.g., 2 or more seconds faster in the 1/4-mile time), you don't need to worry so much about catching the slower car.

I always like Jay Leno's comment in a Popular Mechanics interview regarding this:

"Another thing about modern cars: You get into a Corvette on a twisty road and you nail the gas and pass a Honda Accord. You just go sailing along, you get to the end of it, you stop and 2 seconds later, the Honda Accord's right there. I'm not talking ten/tenths here, but on a regular two-lane, given modern technology, there's not much difference between a high-performance car and a regular car. Not anymore."

This is even more true when the "regular" cars are not that regular anymore.
 

Last edited by Bill S; May 18, 2004 at 12:31 AM.
Old May 18, 2004 | 12:35 AM
  #5  
Dock (Atlanta)'s Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,803
From: Atlanta, GA
Rep Power: 99
Dock (Atlanta) is just really niceDock (Atlanta) is just really niceDock (Atlanta) is just really niceDock (Atlanta) is just really niceDock (Atlanta) is just really nice
Your observations show why street competitions do not really prove who's car is faster unless they both start exactly the same
I agree with you. And even given an exact start, each car has to be in the correct gear and each driver has to properly max. perform their car.

You get into a Corvette on a twisty road and you nail the gas and pass a Honda Accord. You just go sailing along, you get to the end of it, you stop and 2 seconds later, the Honda Accord's right there. I'm not talking ten/tenths here, but on a regular two-lane, given modern technology, there's not much difference between a high-performance car and a regular car. Not anymore
Very true...
 
Old May 18, 2004 | 12:51 AM
  #6  
deeroff's Avatar
Banned
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 313
From: NYC
Rep Power: 35
deeroff is infamous around these parts
Although it really comes down to driver ability. I recall a story about a car magazine writer who was testing the new Toyota Supra (back 10 years or so ago) and he was ripping around the track.

The writer then sees a car in the rear mirror that gets larger and larger. He notices it is a Tercel and steps on it but the Tercel keeps gaining.

The Tercel finally passes him -- With Dan Gurney behind the wheel. Down 150 HP on skinny tires, Gurney kicked tail.

Something to think about
 
Old May 18, 2004 | 01:09 AM
  #7  
996Adict's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 42
From: Porsche Heaven
Rep Power: 24
996Adict is infamous around these parts
Re: RS6 vs 996TT - observations

Originally posted by NWturbo
Hi all:

Finally had a chance to test my RS6 against my Turbo on a nice deserted stretch of highway early in the morning. My buddy drove the RS6 while I was in the 996. Nice dry day.


RS6 suffers from noticable lag starting from a standstill.


nice collection I might say, I test drove an RS6 the other day.. great car!! over the E55 anyday, it just feels better although the AMG is faster.. about the LAG is that an AUDI THING?? because I own and S6 and it does that too.. from standstill I punsh it but the car lag's then launches.. maybe audi need to look at that.. BTW i raced the RS6 with my S6.. big diffrence.. really big once the turbo kicks in!
 

Last edited by 996Adict; May 18, 2004 at 01:11 AM.
Old May 18, 2004 | 01:59 AM
  #8  
AdamT's Avatar
Registered User
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 601
From: South England/Munich
Rep Power: 48
AdamT has a spectacular aura aboutAdamT has a spectacular aura about
NW thank you for the comparison, very interesting. And your car collection is very nice indeed

all the best
adam
 
Old May 18, 2004 | 08:01 AM
  #9  
james's Avatar
Carolina Speed
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 761
From: north carolina
Rep Power: 53
james is infamous around these parts
I always like Jay Leno's comment in a Popular Mechanics interview regarding this:

"Another thing about modern cars: on a regular two-lane, given modern technology, there's not much difference between a high-performance car and a regular car. Not anymore."

Why I don't agree:
(1) The difference between the "fastest man in the world" and the rest of the field is < 0.01 sec.
(2) Corvette and Honda may not be that much different, but are you telling me that C-GT and Corvette are not that diff't? Or that a Mc F1 and an NSX aren't that diff't?
(3) Have we been so spoiled by college football that to be "better" than another team you have to win by (Miami Hurricane) 50 point margin?
(4) I would even argue that if cars perform similar on a two lane highway, the drivers aren't likely equal level, are limited by fears of not being on a closed track and if they get on a closed track, you tell me how anything is going to keep up with a 996 endurance-wise for more than 30 minutes?

wow, bad day and no diet pepsi, sorry.
 

Last edited by james; May 18, 2004 at 08:03 AM.
Old May 18, 2004 | 09:09 AM
  #10  
YSITSMN's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 486
From: Sacramneto, CA
Rep Power: 42
YSITSMN is infamous around these parts
Nice write up. I owned a S4 and Tricked it out And was thinking about Buying the RS6 and slapping on a set of Gerret turbo's custom eghaust and remaping the ecu . I would take a modded RS6 over the E55 any day. Just somthing about the turbo car that gets me.
 
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:37 AM
  #11  
Zlaatan's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 876
From: Sweden
Rep Power: 76
Zlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant futureZlaatan has a brilliant future
Originally posted by james
(1) The difference between the "fastest man in the world" and the rest of the field is < 0.01 sec.
Very OT: Just thought it was a bit funny reading this. Those of you who saw the 100m final in the Olympics know what I'm talking about.

3 month old post and how right you were!!
 
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:02 AM
  #12  
DJ's Avatar
DJ
Registered User
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 10,837
From: New York, NY
Rep Power: 488
DJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond reputeDJ has a reputation beyond repute
James - I can appreciate the hurricane comment I am a cane
 
Old Aug 25, 2004 | 12:52 AM
  #13  
Erik's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,987
From: Europe/USA
Rep Power: 103
Erik has a spectacular aura aboutErik has a spectacular aura about
Thanks! Interesting, but I'm not surprised.

Pics from today.

Black 997 Carrera S vs. Audi RS6 Plus 114/999

They are about equal 0-200 km/h, the 997 is only a little little bit faster.



 
Old Aug 25, 2004 | 01:55 AM
  #14  
SHANKENFELTER's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,910
From: Midwest, Southeast
Rep Power: 152
SHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud ofSHANKENFELTER has much to be proud of
Chip it and you'll be a lot closer, and much harder to pass at mid range. Chip a turbo, and well.....<cough cough>

 
Old Aug 28, 2004 | 02:51 AM
  #15  
brab's Avatar
Croatian Sensation
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 280
From: Charleston, SC & Zagreb, Croatia
Rep Power: 34
brab is infamous around these parts
Shank...when the hell did you get the Gallardo?????

Man you add more cars to your collection than I do socks....

Once again in history I will say "I wanna be Shank!!!"
 

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:05 PM.