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Dez,

Road Atlanta: GTC4 (06 997 GT3 Cup Car) Pat Kelly, 1:27.xx
my friend who lives 4 miles from me. He has NEW Cup Car on order (08)!!

MK

BTW (it is the second fastest time listed for ALL Porsches at Road Atlanta)
We have about 8-9 Cup Cars within a few miles of me.
 

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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER View Post
Dez,

Road Atlanta: GTC4 (06 997 GT3 Cup Car) Pat Kelly,
my friend who lives 4 miles from me. He has NEW Cup Car on order (08)!!

MK

BTW (it is the second fastest time listed for ALL Porsches at Road Atlanta)
We have about 8-9 Cup Cars within a few miles of me.

You left out the time bro.
 
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Why are we putting times up for people that are not active on 6speed though?
 
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Not sure if you want just Porsches or others as well.

-Pacific Raceways (Kent, WA)
-Standard road course

-Lotus Exige
-Yoko AO48
-1:38

-Portland International
-12 turns w/ the chicane

-Lotus Exige
-Yoko AO48
-1:35

-Spokane Raceway
-Standard road course

-Lotus Exige
-Yoko AO48
-1:55


I didn't see these tracks on the board, so I thought it might be useful for anyone that runs those tracks. Car is stock. Driver is learning. Hoping to trailer the car down to Northern CA this summer for a long weekend.
 
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I meant PCA...my bad.
 
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER View Post
Dez,

Road Atlanta: GTC4 (06 997 GT3 Cup Car) Pat Kelly, 1:27.xx
my friend who lives 4 miles from me. He has NEW Cup Car on order (08)!!

MK

BTW (it is the second fastest time listed for ALL Porsches at Road Atlanta)
We have about 8-9 Cup Cars within a few miles of me.
Ahhh, i know Pat. He has a 996 GT3 too. He's cool.
 
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Yes Pat ^^ drives his 996 GT3 thru snow, slush, rain, and sleet all
year around. I see him every other week or so. Terrific (insanely obsessed), Young
Cup Car Driver.
 
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Yea, his job rocks too.
 
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Pat is definately a good guy.
 
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Pat is definately a good guy.

I thought Pat Kelly might have been his screen name.

We arent taking random names here.
 
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yes, my point was that we should keep this list to active 6speeders, otherwise it is going to get looooong. Absolutely nothing against Pat as he is a great guy but he is not on 6speed. He has run many fast laps in many different cars, are we going to add all of them? He ran a 1:49 at BIR in a 996GT3 btw......
 
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I agree on having just street cars, we can always check results from GrandAm, American LeMans, IMSA, PCA, POC on-line, to have an idea on how fast these times are. Also, a Pro driver in a street car can't match the same pro driver in a race car.

The times shown by the GMG GT2 were done by a pro-driver (Sofronas). I think that those are a good reference of how capable a modified street car can be.

However, let's consider than modified Turbo cars have such an advantage, that even a pro-driver on a stock Turbo won't be able to keep up with an experienced DE driver with a modified Turbo.

996 Turbos alone are running in between 415 Hp and close to 900 Hp at the track (almost 500 Hp range). While normally aspirated Porsches have a closer range, with 1999 GT3 at 360 Hp to modified 997 GT3 at 420 Hp at most (just a 60 Hp range).

Even when comparing an almost 20 years old 911 like the 1989 911 Carrera 4 with a 3.6 and 247 Hp, the gap with the most powerful version of a 911 (normally aspirated) is 168 Hp, not even close to the 500 Hp difference among 996TT/GT2.

Power helps at those tracks with long straights, such as Lime Rock, Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta, California Speedway Roval, Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Laguna Seca, Infineon, pretty much every track in U.S.
 
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I agree on having just street cars, we can always check results from GrandAm, American LeMans, IMSA, PCA, POC on-line, to have an idea on how fast these times are. Also, a Pro driver in a street car can't match the same pro driver in a race car.

The times shown by the GMG GT2 were done by a pro-driver (Sofronas). I think that those are a good reference of how capable a modified street car can be.

However, let's consider than modified Turbo cars have such an advantage, that even a pro-driver on a stock Turbo won't be able to keep up with an experienced DE driver with a modified Turbo.

996 Turbos alone are running in between 415 Hp and close to 900 Hp at the track (almost 500 Hp range). While normally aspirated Porsches have a closer range, with 1999 GT3 at 360 Hp to modified 997 GT3 at 420 Hp at most (just a 60 Hp range).

Even when comparing an almost 20 years old 911 like the 1989 911 Carrera 4 with a 3.6 and 247 Hp, the gap with the most powerful version of a 911 (normally aspirated) is 168 Hp, not even close to the 500 Hp difference among 996TT/GT2.

Power helps at those tracks with long straights, such as Lime Rock, Watkins Glen, Road America, Road Atlanta, California Speedway Roval, Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Laguna Seca, Infineon, pretty much every track in U.S.
^^True...but A)Take limerock off of that list for long straights...haha and B)Some tracks like Summit Pt, are more kind to cars that are lighter and less powerful...tracks like Summit are great cup tracks as they have power and weight advantages...
 

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