when installing PSS9s, is corner balancing necessary?
Not corner balanceing the car is like flying to disney world buying
tickets and then spending the whole day on the tram in the parking lot or the monorail. What is the point. You spent your money on the suspension and the install whats an extra $200 to get the full effect.
tickets and then spending the whole day on the tram in the parking lot or the monorail. What is the point. You spent your money on the suspension and the install whats an extra $200 to get the full effect.
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Here is what I never understood about the whole thing:
1. You get your car corner ballanced
2. With NO driver in the car
3. Your drive the car - Your *** is in the car
4. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 200 pounds into the left side.
OR
1. You get your car corner ballanced with your fat a$$ in the seat
2. Your drive the car and pick up a hot chick - or an instructor at the track
3. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 100 worth of hot chick - or 200 pounds for an instructor - into the right seat.
Then again I know little and understand nothing!
1. You get your car corner ballanced
2. With NO driver in the car
3. Your drive the car - Your *** is in the car
4. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 200 pounds into the left side.
OR
1. You get your car corner ballanced with your fat a$$ in the seat
2. Your drive the car and pick up a hot chick - or an instructor at the track
3. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 100 worth of hot chick - or 200 pounds for an instructor - into the right seat.
Then again I know little and understand nothing!
Well...my thoughts on this are that it will always be better to CW than to not (real brilliance on my part there, eh!), but on a street car it would be unusual to notice the diff as long as: 1) the car has not been bent, and 2) you measure as carefully as you can during install of the coilovers.
Hi BlackBear. No, it's not like that. The purpose of corner balancing
is to make sure that suspension components are properly
matching, and have been installed correctly and/or to detect if a
chassis is straight. All of these goals are independent of the load
in the car or where the center of gravity is. Corner balancing is
based on the geometrical fact that a straight car with matched
components on a flat surface should distribute it's weight so that
the right rear load + the left front load should equal the sum of
the other two corners. In fact, it is *very important* to check
your cross weights with different loads in the car. If the corner
balancing is done correctly the cross weights should be equal
for various loads, but crucially, it is all too easy to get the cross
weights equal for one specific loading by dialing in a new comp-
ensating problem to neutralize an existing one *at that loading*,
but as soon as the loading is changed the cros weights will be
way off. For instance, if one tire is way under-inflated and no one
notices it, that corner will be bearing less weight than it should,
and you might make the mistake of increasing the spring preload
to extend the suspension at that end to 'compensate', taking up
it's proper amount of weight *at it sits there*. Ae you rady to race
now? However, if you then sat in the car and retook cross weights
the under-inflated corner would go down further because of the
tire compliance and the cross weights would be off again. On the
other hand, if the initial problem were correctly diagnosed at the
start and the tired inflated to balance, it would remain in balance
(with different higher weights of course) when you got in.
Joe
is to make sure that suspension components are properly
matching, and have been installed correctly and/or to detect if a
chassis is straight. All of these goals are independent of the load
in the car or where the center of gravity is. Corner balancing is
based on the geometrical fact that a straight car with matched
components on a flat surface should distribute it's weight so that
the right rear load + the left front load should equal the sum of
the other two corners. In fact, it is *very important* to check
your cross weights with different loads in the car. If the corner
balancing is done correctly the cross weights should be equal
for various loads, but crucially, it is all too easy to get the cross
weights equal for one specific loading by dialing in a new comp-
ensating problem to neutralize an existing one *at that loading*,
but as soon as the loading is changed the cros weights will be
way off. For instance, if one tire is way under-inflated and no one
notices it, that corner will be bearing less weight than it should,
and you might make the mistake of increasing the spring preload
to extend the suspension at that end to 'compensate', taking up
it's proper amount of weight *at it sits there*. Ae you rady to race
now? However, if you then sat in the car and retook cross weights
the under-inflated corner would go down further because of the
tire compliance and the cross weights would be off again. On the
other hand, if the initial problem were correctly diagnosed at the
start and the tired inflated to balance, it would remain in balance
(with different higher weights of course) when you got in.
Joe
Originally posted by BlackBear
Here is what I never understood about the whole thing:
1. You get your car corner ballanced
2. With NO driver in the car
3. Your drive the car - Your *** is in the car
4. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 200 pounds into the left side.
OR
1. You get your car corner ballanced with your fat a$$ in the seat
2. Your drive the car and pick up a hot chick - or an instructor at the track
3. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 100 worth of hot chick - or 200 pounds for an instructor - into the right seat.
Then again I know little and understand nothing!
Here is what I never understood about the whole thing:
1. You get your car corner ballanced
2. With NO driver in the car
3. Your drive the car - Your *** is in the car
4. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 200 pounds into the left side.
OR
1. You get your car corner ballanced with your fat a$$ in the seat
2. Your drive the car and pick up a hot chick - or an instructor at the track
3. CB is now worth $**** because you have just moved 100 worth of hot chick - or 200 pounds for an instructor - into the right seat.
Then again I know little and understand nothing!
If you want stiff ride get stiffer springs (pss-9 11% stiffer)
if you want adjustable, you got it.
if you want lower height, you got it but stay 11-15 mm higher than GT-2 settings for a 996 with PSS-9
if you want to track the car, corner balance with you in it (the instructor or hot chick is only temporary on the track) and without you in it as this is a control for an accurate set up
if you don't track the car, corner balance is a good idea even if you don't change the suspension components b/c the factory settings may be or have become "off."
And for godssake, if you're getting an adjustable suspension, play around with the adjustments once you have them.
There are a few folks on here you need to listen to no matter what they say (Cary, Joe, Sol, Darren, Ken, etc., you know, the guys with 8 million posts between them?!)
just my .01 (subtract .01 for the rant).
Last edited by james; Aug 15, 2004 at 11:07 PM.
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