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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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roof finally off and CF roof panel arrived!! it weighs 8 pounds!!! total old roof sun roof and interior was about 60 pounds!!

pic of CF roof didnt come through will post however....here is some more.....







 
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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60lbs????????????????????????


WOW! Must......get.....one.......................ASAP!


How much of that is the headliner?
 

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
60lbs????????????????????????


WOW! Must......get.....one.......................ASAP!


How much of that is the headliner?
I am going to precisely weight everything just for you Heavy and then you can decide. I was total "about" 60 but will go over and do it myself.

what I did weigh myself was the CF roof, it is a thing of beauty!!
 
Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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LOL, thanks. Can't wait to see it on there!
 
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Very cool Tom - keep the info flowing.

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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Tom... how was the original roof skin held on? How easy was it to get off?
 
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From what Tom told me, the hardest part is removing the windsheild and back window. From there it's bolted down, but I think those bolts have to be cut and replaced with new bolts because the others are integral. He said it took all of 20 minutes for the guys at Vortex to do, not very labor intensive.

This could catch on quick. I know I'm interested.
 
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I'm wondering how well that carbon roof would work without a cage to support it? Any perceived issues with that or do you think another structural piece might need to be added?
 
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There are still cross beams over the drivers head for some protection. Face it, if you roll a car with no cage, the roof is going to buckle under the pressure. Doesn't matter what car it is. The sunroof doesn't extend to any support beams (I.E. Roof Pillars) so it's not going to save you.

In other words, it's not going to help, but it's not going to make you any more at risk.
 
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I was speaking more about just keeping the roof in good shape (ie: flying debris, hail, etc.). However, I do realize that carbon fiber is extremely strong and stiff...just not sure how to treat it as a non track car part so figured I'd ask. I definitely wasn't implying anything about rollover protection though since, like you said, the roof is going to buckle no matter what you have there. My goal would simply be to ensure it was as "solid as the stock metal roof", that's all.
 
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Originally Posted by 996TT_STEVO
Tom... how was the original roof skin held on? How easy was it to get off?

I have been living through all of this daily. so far what I have learned (this is secret inside info for you guys ears only!) to take the roof panel off you just take out the front and back windows. the top rails pop off revealing where the pretty square roof panel was bolted and welded in. these cut right off and the entire panel lifts out as seen in my pics.

that leaves all the original front back side support the car came with so not really lossing any structural support.

the CF piece (pics on the way) lay in the grooves is bolted and glued down the rails go back over it and the window seals and windows go back like factory.

must admit it is not to labor intensive at all.

calling Vortex for details or help or them to do it please mention me to get them to talk about it and they would be glad to provide a wealth of info or do it for you, they are going to start car three soon.

I will post up more later.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
From what Tom told me, the hardest part is removing the windsheild and back window. From there it's bolted down, but I think those bolts have to be cut and replaced with new bolts because the others are integral. He said it took all of 20 minutes for the guys at Vortex to do, not very labor intensive.

This could catch on quick. I know I'm interested.
lol... Roof ordered a week ago
 
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Originally Posted by tom kerr
I have been living through all of this daily. so far what I have learned (this is secret inside info for you guys ears only!) to take the roof panel off you just take out the front and back windows. the top rails pop off revealing where the pretty square roof panel was bolted and welded in. these cut right off and the entire panel lifts out as seen in my pics.

that leaves all the original front back side support the car came with so not really lossing any structural support.

the CF piece (pics on the way) lay in the grooves is bolted and glued down the rails go back over it and the window seals and windows go back like factory.

must admit it is not to labor intensive at all.

calling Vortex for details or help or them to do it please mention me to get them to talk about it and they would be glad to provide a wealth of info or do it for you, they are going to start car three soon.

I will post up more later.
Tom... I take it they used a angle grinder to cut out the welds... if you don't mind me asking how many welds were there... just want to know exactly what lies ahead?

Tom I have to admit your an inspiration to us all... as you know I am doing a very similar project which will be completed within a few weeks... between you and Al you have helped me out greatly... now stop messing about and get the pics up of the carbon roof
 
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Originally Posted by 996TT_STEVO
Tom... I take it they used a angle grinder to cut out the welds... if you don't mind me asking how many welds were there... just want to know exactly what lies ahead?

Tom I have to admit your an inspiration to us all... as you know I am doing a very similar project which will be completed within a few weeks... between you and Al you have helped me out greatly... now stop messing about and get the pics up of the carbon roof
yes they did and I think there were three on each side but better check with them!!
 
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