What turbos and supporting mods?

 

I want some of that Protomotive Kool Aid! LOL!

Injectors at well over a 100% Duty Cycle and high amounts of fuel pressure are never safe.. But what do you know honestly.. You (And about 95% of Todd's customers) probably don't even really know how a fuel system and regulators work...

I'll stick to the advice Tony, Justin N, etc. have all given me by saying that it's the safest bet to upgrade injectors.

Further more ask EVOMS what injectors they are using Joe's, BigBadBen,etc. cars. Apparently they are LEAPS and BOUNDS ahead of Proto and everyone.. I didn't see any 23x mph Proto cars out there... Hell I didn't see any EPL cars either, but apparently they are doing something right and apparently 60lb injectors WERE NOT CUTTING IT!

 

Wow...

To be honest. I dont know what to say.

Its not magic. Its just air and fuel. When you are flowing enough air to support 914.4 wheel hps on these cars, you will be well out of fuel with 60lb injectors.

So honestly...if the car you posted above had 60lb injectiors, its not making 914.4 hps.

 

Right .... ill let you tell it .. oh and powell you have been drinking tons of the koolaid allready.... your doing great buddy keep drinking.

 

Where'd this guy come from, Honda-Tech?

I know the guys making 1000+hp on the Supras w/ 3.4L motors are using well over 1000cc injectors to supply fuel safely. So if he's using only six 60lb injectors, I don't see how that's even possible with those power levels.

 

There are certain laws of physics that no tuner can brake. It doesn't take Kool-Aid or some magic fairy dust to realize that the graph above was either done on an engine dyno or hub dyno with a nice correction factor, the injectors where rated at 60lbs at a very low fuel pressure and now have the pressure cranked through the roof, or the injectors might have started at 60lbs (and is now modified to flow 1,000cc or more at higher pressure). Regardless an engine is nothing more than an air pump, regarless of how many cylinders, the brand, or whose tuning the engine, certain laws of physics apply. It'd be best to take some time to learn the fundementals, or before you know it people might assume you to be the one drinking the Kool-Aid.

On your average 3.4L Supra at 1,100 you're well out of fuel with 1,000cc unless the fuel pressure is through the roof. Even then you're running at a duty cycle that could exceed 100%. Is it possible to keep going and make power. Would I put my car on the dyno and run it down the track in that configuration, absolutely not.

 

Chris,

Todd installed my injectors when I had GT 28 hybrids.

Wes, how much for a set of the 72lb injectors?

 

Hub dyno - thats why I would like to see these cars on a mustang

 

 

I want power too...........

 

That's from Family Guy!

 

Do you have an injector duty cycle log of the car you posted about when it was making this power?

 

Tial I made 702whp on my 18's there is no 28rs car that would keep up with me bottom line, I talked to you guys at PRI about these turbo's. they look great and would love to sell them, I just need to prove to guys they will not have much lag over my current set up. Why didnt you guys go billet with these?

PS : no way in hell you can make 914whp on 60lbs injectors. Any 1/4 mile times or 60-130 data on that car?

Chris Green

 

We keep the 1,000cc in stock, I can get the 750s for the same price however many big HP cars have just gone with the extra injector. They're $120 each including the pigtails for the injectors and drop right in.
Bosch 1000cc High Impedance Injectors

I'd much rather run at a low duty cycle and make big power, than shoot for the stars and have my ECU requesting 100-110% duty cycle.

 

Hence my post saying "well over 1000cc."
My friend with 625whp on his 1.9L sleeved B18C is running 1200cc injectors, so I can only imagine what the 1000whp guys are running. I think my friend Ray w/ his 3.0L 900+whp Supra is running in the 1200-1400cc range.