Ben, lighten up, you're out of line. If you don't have the intellect to handle the discussion, fine, but don't try to insult me through your own ignorance. Or, maybe you would like to tell me what physics your CGT is able to overcome to make your "staggering" statement rational.

And as you clearly don't understand, the braking g's my Lambo can pull is surprisingly close (as directly opposed to staggeringly" different) to what your CGT can pull. That’s all I’m correcting. Like I said before, you own a truly superior car.


I think it's funny that you guys went with the hoodlum look and he still gave you the keys. Damn would I have been nervous.

 

Were we supposed to wear suits or a nice dress shirt? You should've seen my friend when he bought his Lambo.

 

i'm just a bit tired of all the guys pulling out their "magazine" numbers and/or experienceless opinions to make "statements of fact".

as for "some" of the many reasons this supercar's brakes trounce the likes of lambos (especially those that have 20 year old technology) and 996 TTs:

- weight - especially of the unsprung variety
- rigidity of structure/suspension (less slopping around of weight during transfer)
- much larger contact patches than the 996TT
- the only tires approved for the CGT have a softer compound on the outer 1/3 of the tire (more R like)

i'm not trying to be a dick, but do me a favor and get some *** time in one while you or someone else hammers the brakes from well into the triple digits and tell me if you don't feel the braking Gs are both "staggering" and uniquely absurd for a street car. the brakes were by far the most memorable feature on the car while being piloted by le mans winning drivers around the porsche track in leipzig.

fwiw, i didn't start all these silly comparisons. rather, i simply made a statement based upon both the leipzig experience and many 150 mph+ deceleration exeriences in my own CGT that a passenger is looking for trouble in a CGT unbelted under hard braking.

 

Umm, was that the CGT for sale at Cherry Hill?

 

Yes it was

 

The sound of the CGT is unbelieveable even on video!!

 

ummmmm, now i REALLY want one.........

that Black looks "RIfrigginDICULOUS"

 

There is no better sound. Makes a Ferrari sound like a lawnmower...

 

the only bummer is most ferraris sound better "inside" the car so the driver and passenger gets to enjoy it too. there are three sounds in a cgt. one is outside the car (orgasmic), two is inside the car with the tops off, and three is inside the car with the tops on. they are all three pretty much dratisically different from each other.

 

great vid. CGT sounds incredible. It's not all tin can pingy like the 360. That's one ballsy guy letting you guys test drive it.

 

Ben:

I will make one last effort.

“- weight - especially of the unsprung variety�

This has little effect on a smooth track or road, the situation we assumed and where braking tests are done. Rotational mass has a bigger effect, as I previously mentioned, but as we will see, this has a relatively little effect.

“- rigidity of structure/suspension (less slopping around of weight during transfer)�

What? This is marginal at best.

“- much larger contact patches than the 996TT�

You are wrong yet again. The size of the contact patch DOES NOT change with wider tires (lets assume same brand). The shape of the contact patch does, but the area of the contact patch does not. So, assuming the same tires on the cars, at the same pressures, the contact patch on the turbo would be larger! (because it weighs more).

“- the only tires approved for the CGT have a softer compound on the outer 1/3 of the tire (more R like)�

I am not familiar with the tires so lets just get to straight data.

Road and track

60-0
CGT 124’
GT-3 119

Hardly staggering, in fact, the CGT pulls lower braking g’s. Hmmm! How wrong could you be?

80-0
CGT 199
GT-3 207

Well well, the CGT wins, but staggering? Me thinks not.

At very high speeds, you may be more correct, and at the track, you probably are correct, that the brakes will function better, but I threw the caveot below 120 mph, and in normal street driving, there is very little difference as I have just proven.

Now, be a man, admit your original statement was wrong, and we can move along. Otherwise, present me with your FACTS that dispute what I have just shown.

 

SHANK DO IT!!!!!!!!

 

Hardly....

In fact, having had the opportunity to drive both a CGT and a CS extensively, I favor the CS sound. Of course, I like the CGT sound also.

And Ben, regarding braking, as you already know ...... on second thought, let's not even get into a braking comparison. Diminishing returns sets in early on these wonderful cars.

 

Trust me I am not even going to talk about this subject cause I have no clue.....but I think his "facts" are that he has owned supercharged 996's, Ferrari Challenge Stradale and now the CGT so to him, comparing it to the other cars he has owned/driven, the braking is staggering. PERIOD. Not some x times z minus e coeficient as he said "magazine" numbers.....

 

Yeah!

Do it!

Do it!

What, you C H I C K E N!

BGAWWWWWWW!

BGAWWWWWWW!