Can I test drive your CGT? Pretty please

 

Or course I understand how easy it would be to modify the GT2 to outrun it in a straight line (there are considerably cheaper modified cars than would be your GT2 at the drag strip that would rip apart a CGT). However, that would just make the GT2 "scarier" and more worthless on the track with even more difficult to modulate power. Additionally though, Todd's car with 900 hp (and AWD) couldn't manage to outrun the CGT in the 1/4 mile cause that much power is neat on the dyno but useless on the ground (and even more so trying to get on the power on apex exit). I suspect it would take considerably less power than 900 hp to "hit a wall" with respect to being able to put it to the ground with the RWD GT2.

But, how do we get to conversations and comparisons like this anyway? The natural progression of the threads on most car boards is a morphing into comparisons of the cars each poster personally owns with the poster seemingly "defending" (often through bashing what the other guy is driving) whatever it is he has. It first starts out stock for stock, and then moves into "what if I modified it via X", and "mine does - or could do it - while only costing X", etc. It's fairly predictible and I guess it's just a product of our testosterone

 

Touche

 

I agree. No car, from the outside (which means a bit more to me than what it sounds like inside - yes i'm shallow), sounds more like an F1 car than the CGT. It's not just the noise. It's the combination of both the V-10's instant responses and the mellifluous high note that makes it oh so very sweet.

 

Well put!

 

dude, Ben nor colorchange or anyone else brought up the GT2 into the braking discussion

you're in love with your gt2; we get it already

 

Hahaah, I guess he is sad that the GT2 isn't the top dog in porsche's lineup anymore and still wants attention. If I was ben I would start looking down on the GT2 the same way hamann did to the turbo owners when he got his GT2.

 

but i'm thinking ben,lj's a better man than that and i thank him for his patience.

i'm reading thru this thread and just find it comedic how, yes, the discussion turns into one owner being defensive and at times offensive with his dick tied to his rizzide that ends up being rather... funny in an almost embarrassing way.

i'm not here to kiss your *** or anyone else's, but i will land a big wet one on the CGT's rear. it's a beautiful car that is head and shoulders above ANY 911, modded or stock. it is a true supercar and no aftermarket tuner is going to turn a factory car into a supercar. NO ONE. they don't have the talent, time, skills or the market to make it happen. CGT truly defines the world "holism" and is a true testament to automotive engineering genius.

as for the others: don't hate, appreciate

thx for the video and photos, skaters!

 

Hey Ben,

Like I said, you know I love the Carrera GT. Aren't you glad you didn't back away from your deposit??? Was I not the one who advocated for you to take delivery of that gorgeous car of yours?

My opinion of the CGT can hardly be described as "hate."

Who knows, a CGT may be next on my list. After all, having bought a GT3 recently, now all I need is a CGT and a GT1 to complete the lineup.

In that sense, I admire guys like Chad. **** buying one and selling the other, just collect them all!!!

 

And it wouldn't bother me one bit. After all, the CGT is one of the best Porsches ever made, save for the GT1 and 962.

But it doesn't change the fact that in most aspects, the GT2 is still far better than a 996 Turbo.

 

My whole point is that any decent car will pull about the same braking g's in any normal braking test. What I think you are missing is that the tires really drive the stopping g's. I can put you in a Dodge Neon and smack you into the windshield with the brakes. That's not the point. The point I am trying to make is that your car will not pull more decelerating g's than any decent sports car because the tires are it, and your tires aren't that different than the GT-3, and therefore neither was your time. And I chose the GT-3 because it has the same weight and because that was the easiest data to find.

And yes, because the two car's masses are the same, the one that stops quicker pulls higher braking g's (by definition). The GT-2 will have almost the exact braking g's as well. The tt's will be extremely close, and since I have measured the braking g's in the tt, and they nearly match my Lambo (I have Wilwood racing brakes), I can assure you that they are all close. And as I said before, your statement of a staggering difference is just plain wrong. A slight difference would be the best you could do on the street. At the track, it’s a completely different ballgame.

And yes guys, if you take a car with the same brand of tires and the same tire pressure, 200 tires all around, compared to 345’s all around, the contract patch is the same. This isn’t obvious but it’s true. On the narrow tires, the contact patch is long but narrow (the tire gets a bigger flat spot). With the wide tires, the contact patch is very wide but very short, but the total area is the same. Seriously Ben, don’t mess with me on technical issues, it’s my strong suit and not yours.

All in all, I still love your car.

 

Tim, I can assure you that the equation changes when you put on the Brembo GTR kit.

Arling had them on his old Turbo and the deceleration was significantly stronger than any sports car I've ever been in. They are INSANE!!!

 

Fair enough, it is better than a 911 turbo performance wise, but that doesn't mean the 911 turbo isn't still one of the best cars out there.

I was expecting a completely different response from you anyway, I am almost suprised, maybe you didn't have your coffee today.

 

I can smack an unbelted Kirby into the windshield of my Land Rover at a mere 40 mph and it'll put a staggering bump on his forehead. Anyone want me to prove it?

 

996 Turbo is definitely one of the best cars out there. I would take it over a 360 Modena any day of the week.