Has anyone done the GT2 clutch mod without replacing their clutch?

I've got a failed accumulator, I'm not crazy about the stock clutch "feel", but I have no slipping, and I'm not crazy about spending money that I don't have to spend.

I have a lift, and I was thinking of taking on the GT clutch mod myself, but I would prefer not to buy a new clutch - is that crazy?

Thoughts / opinions?

 

I had my local indi do my GT2 slave/master conversion a few weeks ago, without replacing my almost new clutch. Improves feel dramatically. One of the most notable mods I have done to the car. If I had a lift I would have done this myself.

Tom

 

I don't think it's crazy at all. I was contemplating it, but since I wasn't going to wrench it myself, that would be $2000+ just to make the pedal feel better.

If you have no intention of going for more power, then just change the slave. If you might, then I would suggest you either wait to do everything at once or just change it now.

 

The cost of the slave and accumulator are within about $300 of the price of the EVOMS kit. Why not replace a point of failure and get better modulation at the same time?

Tom

 

tvurt,

I have no intention of replacing the slave / accumulator. It's either nothing (for now), GT2 mod, or GT2 mod + clutch (and maybe LWFW).

Other than a stiff clutch pedal at start, is there any downside to running with a failed accumulator for some period of time?

 

i think it could start to leak at some point. You could get overflowing pentosin in the can in front if the accumulator is bad.

If your car is not modified, stick with the stock clutch, it will hold good for a long time. With the k16/24 and UMW flash mine started slipping very fast so had to change it. Wish i would have done the GT conversion instead of changing the accumulator and slave at the same time.

Otherwise, kevin's clutch kit is nice, other than the fact i had a lot of trouble installing it, it works good now and i really appreciate it on the track mostly.

 

more specific about the feel??

 

pumalex - I doubt I will do anything more serious than exhaust / flash in the near future. I presume the stock clutch can handle that modest power bump without issue.

2muchtime - the posts I have read indicate that the GT2 mod gets rid of the vagueness / unpredictability of the accumulator setup. My 996 TT is an upgrade from a 2003 Mustang Cobra - to be honest, I thought the Cobra had better clutch feel than the Porsche.

 

Well you can actually tell where you are in the engagement travel now. Before my clutch was like an inconsistent on/off switch, one shift it hit higher/or lower then the next. Now I can tell exactly when it will bite and feather the throttle, or ease the clutch, to achieve a smooth shift.

tbarcelo - The problem with running a failed accumulator is the cost of damage to the ultra expensive 996tt gearbox. Lots of things can go wrong with a poorly opperating clutch system, and i personally did not want to find out, after my slave failed.

Tom

 

Exactly. This mod makes the clutch pedal very intuitive to use. It becomes an extension of your leg. Any movement/input of the pedal is directly transfereed to the clucth in a manner that you can "feel" it happening. I did this mod years ago before it was commercially available and love it. We now sell the EVO kits. If anyone is interested in pricing on an EVO conversion kit, please contact me.

 

That's funny, I had an 03 Cobra too. I think this clutch mod would make the Porsche feel more like the Cobra, which is good

 

Oh, I just thought I really sucked at consistant smooth shifting so now is my time since my accumulator is on the outs

 

ETW 360 - that's too much. We're looking for the same wheels, we sold the same "wheels", don't tell me your accumulator is shot Have you found a Porsche shop you're comfortable with?

2muchtime - that's exactly what I feel like in this car - like I just suck at smooth shifting ... but I have other cars to disprove that theory.

 

Yea, I was fine when it was stock, but now that I added everything along with CM stage 3 clutch it feels like a suprise everytime I let out the clutch when its going to grab. My wife has learned to apply her make up at home rather than in the car on our way out somewhere

 

I think I will be taking my car to EPE (European Performance Engineering) in Natick, MA for service and mod installs. They do a lot of work on 993 and older race cars but I've also seen a good amount of 996 Turbos and GT3s in there.