are they all 4WD?

 

Yes Sir

 

thank you, guess I will do some more homework, would rather stay 2WD

 

GT2 is the only factory 2wd turbo 911 in the 996 type. Many others convert to RWD.

 

so I save a few more pennies and get what I really want, I assume the GT2 has the CF brakes too. I had just figuered I could find a TT and change when the waste gates opened, retune and change out the brakes and wind up with a "close" to a x50 or GT2 car for less money. But I really want only RWD.

 

Some people fully convert (remove front diff, axles and change suspension to GT2). Some just remove diff and axles and keep the suspension...

Depends on what you are doing with the car on the CF brakes. Track work will not be pleasant on the wallet - (around $5k for a rotor I believe)...

 

X50 and Gt2 are the same, except for the Gt2 being factory RWD and standard with PCCB as mentioned before the rotor replacement cost on PCCB is very high...on X50 and other 911 turbo cars (not including Turbo S) the PCCB is a factory option.

 

Just find the right GT2 rather than getting an X50 and going through all the pain of trying to convert it all to GT2 specs. A lot less sweat and blood to just get the car you want at the beginning, and it'll hold its value better.

 

I think you are giving too much credit to the x50 and not enough credit to the GT2. Are you looking for a street car or a track car?

 

GT2 and X50 are def not the same. Yeah they have the same turbos, exhaust, and IC's but other than that... GT2 is factory RWD with different front suspention, has transmission cooler with no front spline for the fwd, no rear seats, different front and engine cover/wing, different size rims/tires on rear, rolled rear fenders, etc. Plus they are way more rare due to limited numbers built, so price and value are better.

X50 is a good option, but def not a GT2.

 

NOLA911 ask a great question, track or street. most start off with the intention of a street car; if it's your only car that's usually what it is. however, if it's your toy things progress rather fast, all pun intended. i have a 04 tt that i have make into an S/x50 what have you, i love the car so much that i have plans now of making a track car only out of an older car 96-98 .. i would make this a track car but it's a cab and it's perfect. my everyday car is a prius, so when, and it will once you get that turbo bug hits, really as yourself that question, track or street??

 

I understand all of that and it's true, with the subtle differences and build numbers etc...when I said they are basicly the same I meant the engines, IC, and turbos and performance etc...sure there are differences. However one of my good friends who had both '02 X50 and '02 GT2, when each had a tune only, the X50 consistantly posted a faster lap time, same driver same conditions...he is a very experienced driver, we both instruct for PCA, I've been racing since '04 and he for longer than that with PCA...the X50 had an aerokit front lip with a gt2 rear blade on the factory duck tail, the Gt2 had the factory gt2 aero...he said both cars felt "almost" equally planted with a nod to the x50 and aerokit even at 185+ mph on the high banking at daytona... according to him the X50 would post a slightly faster time on any track where the weather was anything less than absolutely perfect, and still on top of that you have to be very experienced as a driver to get anything close to optimal from the Gt2 citing that it was inherently unstable when driven close to 10/10ths...this is coming from someone who has been racing Porsches for a good deal of time and done pro races as well. I think for a track only car the gt2 would be better, but you would have to work your way into familiarity with that car, it would require loggin laps and having ammassed a good deal of expereince as a driver, just some thoughts.

 

maybe the x50's AWD explains the faster times?

 

that's part of it, but there is are factors like transition characteristics - power on oversteer and trailing throttle oversteer/wieght transfer that are part of the equation, not to mention the X50 has a conrner entry understeer built into it slightly...the chareceristics in these 2 cars are different, I think the GT2 is a harder car to drive but is very fast when track conditions are PERFECT, at close to optimal levels...the chassis and balance is not as conducive to stability, as for RWD cars vs AWD they can be faster and often are than the turbo counterparts...an example of this is the GT3 RS which is a phenomenal car to have on track...