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Old May 3, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by landjet
Plus 1 for the GT3 6 piston calipers and 350mm rotors all around. I felt a definite improvement at the track. The front brake pad that goes with them is huge.
Larry......what 350 rotor are you running?
 
Old May 3, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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All I can say is that pagid yellows + fluid made a HUGE difference for me. I am adding cooling and we shall see how she likes it.
 
Old May 3, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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I wasn't talking about issues (as problems); I suggested bigger brakes for safety reasons for those with higher hps. Stopping 20 feet more or 20 feet less can mean your life or someone else's life.

Originally Posted by ttpopo
There was another stg2-3turbo out there (Eric) silver 996tt with the pagid yellows who had ZERO brake issues...
 
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
I wasn't talking about issues (as problems); I suggested bigger brakes for safety reasons for those with higher hps. Stopping 20 feet more or 20 feet less can mean your life or someone else's life.
Both the 6 pot and the 4 pot brakes have more than enough power to lock up the wheels (or activate the ABS) so braking distance is squarely dependent on tire traction. The 6 pot brakes will not give you a shorter stopping distance. They will however be more fade resistant during repeated heavy use due to their larger effective area and they look better.
 
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Originally Posted by jpflip
Tim, you are talking about the entrance hole which is now .125. How much more can we open it?
Yes you can open all the holes up, transfer tube too. I do not remember the sizes as it was quite some time ago but you can open all the holes up to the line size as the flare is what makes the seal. Jp is that 1/8 hole in the inserted flare or all the way into the caliper?
 
Old May 3, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by johnselli
Both the 6 pot and the 4 pot brakes have more than enough power to lock up the wheels (or activate the ABS) so braking distance is squarely dependent on tire traction. The 6 pot brakes will not give you a shorter stopping distance. They will however be more fade resistant during repeated heavy use due to their larger effective area and they look better.
 
Old May 3, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC
Yes you can open all the holes up, transfer tube too. I do not remember the sizes as it was quite some time ago but you can open all the holes up to the line size as the flare is what makes the seal. Jp is that 1/8 hole in the inserted flare or all the way into the caliper?
That measurement was taken into the caliper. I did not remove the transfer tube, going into the other two pistons, but I guess those two openings for the transfer tube have to be open also.
 
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Originally Posted by GreggT
Larry......what 350 rotor are you running?
Girodisc up front, stock rear until they crack, then Girodisc back there too. Girodisc is one of the few that retains the rear parking brake.
 
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Originally Posted by johnselli
Both the 6 pot and the 4 pot brakes have more than enough power to lock up the wheels (or activate the ABS) so braking distance is squarely dependent on tire traction. The 6 pot brakes will not give you a shorter stopping distance. They will however be more fade resistant during repeated heavy use due to their larger effective area and they look better.
So if I am going 100 MPH and slam on the brakes, either brake will lock up the wheels and it will be up to the tire traction...but won't the bigger brakes lock up the wheels faster? I realize we are talking fractions of a second but fractions of a second at high speeds adds up to several feet.
 
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I am going to try with just pads F&R + fluid first.
If thats not enough, then upgrade to the 6-pot up front is in order.
 
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Originally Posted by MrWhite
Appr 2 - 2.5

Endless RF650 is one of the very best fluids around w highest boiling point and low compressibility = max feel.

Endless ME20 are some of the very best pads around for tracking. Just for street they usually make noise.
I second that. we have been using Endless pads and fluids on a lot of our GT-R projects and on some Porsches. The brake pedal control and the bite increases to the point where several clients decided not to go with BBK on their track cars.
 
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Is Endless fluid compatible with other fluids{SRF} when doing a brake flush? What is the wet boiling temp of Endless RF650? What is the price delta for the ME20 pads that fit the 6 piston calipers?
 
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Originally Posted by ttpopo
^^^^^^This man speaketh the truth.

There was another stg2-3turbo out there (Eric) silver 996tt with the pagid yellows who had ZERO brake issues...

I think i just answered my OWN question!
That would be me. Great meeting you at the POC event at WSIR.

Hope you get your brake issues resolved soon.
 

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Old May 4, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by landjet
Girodisc up front, stock rear until they crack, then Girodisc back there too. Girodisc is one of the few that retains the rear parking brake.
How do you like the Girodisc setup? I am thinking of changing out the pccb's for them. I am a big fan of RSS's products but brakes are big and what I am doing even more so.
 
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997tt rear calipers

I've got a complete set of 997tt brakes. I'm confused as to can i use the rear 997tt caliper? any help would be great!

Thanks
Adrian
 


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