Some pics of step lip vs reverse lip for Black Gold
Some pics of step lip vs reverse lip for Black Gold
HRE 500 series step Lip



HRE 500 R series reverse lip


note the step lip has an 18" center on a 19"wheel whereas the reverse lip has a 19" center on a 19" wheel
Good luck
Lou
HRE 500 R series reverse lip
note the step lip has an 18" center on a 19"wheel whereas the reverse lip has a 19" center on a 19" wheel
Good luck
Lou
Well.......not to butt in here.....but both 'centers' meet the lip or rim. It's just that the flat lip/rim of a reverse drop wheel has no visable 'step' in (drop) of a traditional rim so the wheel center is that much larger.
The wheels in front are traditional step rims.....immediately behind on right are reverse drop flat rim 19s (w/19" centers
)...pay no attention to AMGs & others.
The wheels in front are traditional step rims.....immediately behind on right are reverse drop flat rim 19s (w/19" centers
)...pay no attention to AMGs & others.
Originally posted by Zippy
Is there any strength or ride quality given up with an 18" reverse lip as compaired to the same wheel with a standard lip?
Is there any strength or ride quality given up with an 18" reverse lip as compaired to the same wheel with a standard lip?
**I dont have HREs but have heard of this being the case. If its not true I would certainly consider some 547R or 841R for the M3.
Just an FYI.
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Black Gold, I could be wrong, but, I don't know anyone buying step lips anymore. They are an old design. What that means for you is that spending the additional $500 now for the reverse lip will save you TONS when you try to resell. Reverse lip rims are a much much easier sale when you go to resell them.
JohnFrom Jersey,
Below is a a pic of the step lip 547 and below that is a pic of my car with the 547R reverse lip. I really think it makes a big difference. Anyway, decide for yourself..............
HRE 547(step lip 18" center on 19" rim

HRE 547R (reverse lip 19"center on 19" rim on my car


Good luck
Lou
JohnFrom Jersey,
Below is a a pic of the step lip 547 and below that is a pic of my car with the 547R reverse lip. I really think it makes a big difference. Anyway, decide for yourself..............
HRE 547(step lip 18" center on 19" rim
HRE 547R (reverse lip 19"center on 19" rim on my car


Good luck
Lou
Lou,
Have you ever noticed the water collection I mentioned? I really have only heard very few complaints and more about it "in theory"...just wondering if it is noticeable.
EDIT** I searched on Bimmerforums and came up with a few threads...this one being the best describing the problem and cause:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=113768
Any HRE owners please chime in if you notice this.
Have you ever noticed the water collection I mentioned? I really have only heard very few complaints and more about it "in theory"...just wondering if it is noticeable.
EDIT** I searched on Bimmerforums and came up with a few threads...this one being the best describing the problem and cause:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=113768
Any HRE owners please chime in if you notice this.
Last edited by 95RogueM3; May 5, 2005 at 10:35 PM.
Originally posted by LSM
Black Gold, I could be wrong, but, I don't know anyone buying step lips anymore. They are an old design. What that means for you is that spending the additional $500 now for the reverse lip will save you TONS when you try to resell. Reverse lip rims are a much much easier sale when you go to resell them.
Black Gold, I could be wrong, but, I don't know anyone buying step lips anymore. They are an old design. What that means for you is that spending the additional $500 now for the reverse lip will save you TONS when you try to resell. Reverse lip rims are a much much easier sale when you go to resell them.
IMHO, I think the stepped rim looks mean and functional while the flat lip looks a little trendy.
G
Originally posted by 95RogueM3
Lou,
Have you ever noticed the water collection I mentioned? I really have only heard very few complaints and more about it "in theory"...just wondering if it is noticeable.
EDIT** I searched on Bimmerforums and came up with a few threads...this one being the best describing the problem and cause:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=113768
Any HRE owners please chime in if you notice this.
Lou,
Have you ever noticed the water collection I mentioned? I really have only heard very few complaints and more about it "in theory"...just wondering if it is noticeable.
EDIT** I searched on Bimmerforums and came up with a few threads...this one being the best describing the problem and cause:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=113768
Any HRE owners please chime in if you notice this.
Lou
Stepped lip still has its place, looks better on certain muscle cars such as the Viper or Vette. It is a more muscular look. The reverse lip with the huge lip is more of an import / Japanese styling that is catching on now. On the Porsche you can go either way and it looks nice.
Originally posted by LSM
Black Gold, I could be wrong, but, I don't know anyone buying step lips anymore. They are an old design. What that means for you is that spending the additional $500 now for the reverse lip will save you TONS when you try to resell. Reverse lip rims are a much much easier sale when you go to resell them.
JohnFrom Jersey,
Below is a a pic of the step lip 547 and below that is a pic of my car with the 547R reverse lip. I really think it makes a big difference. Anyway, decide for yourself..............
Good luck
Lou
Black Gold, I could be wrong, but, I don't know anyone buying step lips anymore. They are an old design. What that means for you is that spending the additional $500 now for the reverse lip will save you TONS when you try to resell. Reverse lip rims are a much much easier sale when you go to resell them.
JohnFrom Jersey,
Below is a a pic of the step lip 547 and below that is a pic of my car with the 547R reverse lip. I really think it makes a big difference. Anyway, decide for yourself..............
Good luck
Lou
Perfect. I can see the difference now. The "R" it flat all the way to the blades, while the stepped lip rises up (or has a notch) before meeting the blades. The "R" looks like it has a full 19 inch blade (or center) and the stepped has the 18 inch blade due to the step.
Whew. THANK YOU LOU!





