Hello folks
Is there anybody that have done a mod on their Tip in order to handle increased power from their engine mod.
If so what did the Tip mods entail?
How expensive was it?
What was the max. horsepower capability after the mods?

Thanks in advance

 

If there is a shop in the US that can upgrade the tip to handle 1000+Hp, they haven't made their way on to this forum.

 

That's an absolutely false statement. The correct statement is... there are no examples of 996tt upgraded tips making 1000 HP.

 

997tt tiptronics are doing it. It's the same transmission other than the computer. In fact the fastest cars with biggest power on the forum are tiptronics.

 

Thanks for the info so far guy's. Pumptech, are you aware of people that has done such an upgrade that I can speak to? What kinda horsepower could it handle after the modas. I have no intentions of exessive horsepower. 550 - 650 HP will be more than enough for me. Any idea of $$$ ?

 

Check tiptronic information thread. There are quite a few examples of upgraded tiptronics running your intended power and to my knowledge NONE have failed. The list of places are in no order IPT, renntech, vivid, MKB (Germany) and fixeuro.com. Fixeuro is in Dallas and has only been used by one 6speed member to my knowledge. PM valley996tt and see how it's holding up. His build is well documented on there. it will be my choice when the time comes. Prices range from about $5500-$10,000 yet it's very unclear whether the higher priced option are doing anything different from the mid and lower options. Prices are few thousand more upfront than a triple carbon clutch for sure but none have failed to my knowledge. And just wait Til the synchros or gears blow in the sixspd and ul be $1000's ahead! BHT is very quick to jump to the 1000HP arena where he plays when most members aren't building the $100,000 motors required to do so. Yet the ones doing best at this power are 997 tiptronics. We have this argument often.

 

Of course the 997s are handling the power. He posted in the 996 section. So I was talking about 996 tips.

Btw, pumptech, how is your car running?

 

It's the same transmission! And the point with that statement is that the build and upgrade and likely durability and performance of the transmission are certainly comparable.

My car is running fine. It always has. Not sure why you keep asking that.

 

That's good. Just never hear from you until you feel the need to be "right."

 

We hear from you often! Unfortunately your statement was incorrect.

It doesn't matter whether you are putting a 996tt in front of the tip, a 997tt or a ford 460. It's essentially the same transmission. If it handles in one it will handle in the other. I think the starter is in a different spot which certainly makes them incompatible but doesn't change the real point of his question. Nobody including myself is specifically going to build a $100k car just to prove this.

While I expect you offer useful knowledge in some areas I don't expect someone who can't change their own oil to be offering definitive advice on transmissions and their power limits or rebuild capabilities. We all know you had bad tiptronic experiences but you didn't have yours upgraded and really have no experience with built tips other than opinion of the stock box.

 

The argument over who works on their cars vs. those who pay a shop is weak. I've changed many quarts of oil.

No, i never built my tip beyond stock spec. So, tell us all about your vast experience with built tips that hold tons of power. Give us some data on how your tip is burning up the charts and raising eyebrows. Show me the vast number of 996tips here in the US that have even run better than 6.33 60-130. I see one 996 tip (in the UK) faster than 6.33 and he is on much bigger turbos. I see the fastest 60-130 on this board are ALL under 4 seconds and are 997tips. Tell me how the trannies are the same again.

 

I posted many times about tip upgrades so do some searching.

996/997 are same transmissions, the main difference is the TCU/ECU workings. I have not seen a broken upgraded tiptronic, so they can hold 1000+

However, until there is a solid TCU solution for 996 (i don't see it ever coming), they will always be slower than the 997s. This is there is no one stupid enough to fully upgrade a tip.

 

Its not a weak claim. you have to my knowledge no mechanical experience with any car other than paying someone to put your parts on. and thats fine, most people are like that. but adding oil doesnt count. i wish i had the money honestly. once again im not claiming to be the porsche authority. im just stating that you are not.

Im not claiming to have vast experience with tips of any variety, im just claiming you don't. you are the one that chimes in on every tip post claiming nope cant do it, nobody does it, waste of time. every damn one of them!

im not gonna show you any list. i dont have a list and im not going to go take a poll. i do know there are plenty of 996tt tips running around with lots of power and no problems including bad107 if you insist on an example. again....im not bragging on my car, never have, but you continue to bring it up. im not going to build a $100K motor to prove you wrong. i promise if money was no object the auto trans would win in durability and most time trials.

the fastest 1/4 mile cars (what most americans are interested in) out there are 997 tips. the point is the upgraded tip will handle the power and THATS what he asked. its the same transmission. tip upgrade is more expensive up front but there are NO examples of one failing while there are plenty of 6spds that blow or need synchros even after the $3000 carbon clutch plus instal

tell you how the trannies are the same again?? "the trannies are the same except for the computer and i think the starter is in a different spot". tell me how they are different?

 

lets make it about your car because i know thats what you really want to talk about. if your car was a built tiptronic i have know doubt your car would be faster and more durable in almost every category than it is in six speed configuration. and in the long run...after you blow or need some internals redone on that 6 it will be cheaper. however i do agree it would be less fun to drive.

 

Thanks for the spirited debate guys. I appreciate all the info I can get. Yes amongst one, money is an issue for me hence my question of a rough "estimate" of such costs.