996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Congrats on your purchase! Love the garage art. You are quite talented my friend.
Now I'm blushing... are you kidding? Artist's are shameless self promoters! More... Sorry about picture quality.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Congrats Donny!

I'm looking to go the other way -- i.e. pick up an air cooled Porsche to join my 996TT. I'd probably go with an 80's era SC or 3.2, but I'd be very interested in your thoughts on having both cars. Do you see yourself having the time and desire to drive both regularly? (as we know, these cars are meant to be, and need to be, driven! How has the maintenance been on your air cooled -- do you expect it will be similar (in cost) as your new ride?
Oh yea, I forgot the weight thing... My 75 weighs in at 2375 wet. This turbo has a big *** and carries some major tonnage BUT.. does it very, very well! ;D
 
Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Thank you sir... I have been an Air Cooled loyalist and H2o hater for way too long. While I still find the AC car to be the most fun to drive, in the twisties, the 996tt is another ball game. Air Cooled cars are far, far easier to maintain yourself. I've done most of the work on my 3.2 equipped '75. No power anything, no air conditioning, no stability management or other driver assists to take away that raw (real Porsche) experience. I will be driving my '75 more than the faster, more elegant turbo. Repairs to this new car are probably above my pay grade so upkeep and risks of higher cost issues will likely step up with the more complex turbo and all it's systems. They are all meant to be driven but the early car can be driven flat out and is very predictable to pilot for me after so many rewarding years. Not so with this new rocket. I will acclimate I'm sure but the difference certainly has my respect right now!

My biggest worry would be the IMS that every one talks about and nobody understands...? Hopefully exercise and diet will prevent such issues.
It's too quite for me and the ride height isn't' as sweet as my '75 but it is so cool I can't criticize it's drawbacks.
Thanks for the great input. I've been concerned in taking a step back in performance, but everything I've researched has highlighted a completely different driving experience with the older AC Porsches. Everyone seems to agree that it's much harder to drive them well -- for example, you even have to pay much more attention to work the transmission -- but everyone also seems to agree that it's very satisfying to drive. I'm also thinking that if I'll become a much better driver when I've learned to drive the AC well and fast .

The good news is that you don't really have to worry about the IMS on your 996TT. The IMS has not been a big problem on the Turbos (completely different engines) as they have been on the non-Turbo 996 and Boxsters. Sure, there are other quirks of our cars (e.g. some have had problems with cooling hoses), but IMS is not one of them. Have fun with both your rides!
 
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I sure hope you are right about the IMS not being a Turbo problem. My motor only had 26K on the meter when I got it. It is so quiet you can hear a low RPM/Idle rattle that was concerning me. My wrench, who did the PPI, told me it sounds more like a chain tensioner that may be a bit loose and nothing to be concerned about. I've heard that before from Porsche mechanics so I was still worried (a little). If you are right I will be far more attentive to the road and less to the motor now! Again the 75 roars and sounds amazing! Light weight early cars with upgrades like mine are great buys if you can someone willing to let one go. You will pay a bit more than an SC but you will appreciate the "true Porsche" thrills and smells...
 
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Another comment... About the driving experiences of these very different Porsches;
The 210HP that my 3.2 delivers to the 2375 lb '75 and (and a nicely sorted suspension set up) teaches you how to approach every bend and hones your skills and ability to judge speed, grip and limits. I believe I am a reasonably good "spirited" driver. I drive locally with friends who are track experienced and dedicated tech drivers. My early 911 years gives me an edge, especially on our local mountain twisties, Now the Turbo, with it's incredible acceleration and AWD grip that I am still in awe of, puts that experience behind a very capable machine. Look around and find yourself the perfect 911 for your tastes and, to quote an old Porsche proverb: "Drive it like you stole it" They love it!!
 

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Nice white 996's guys. Enjoy her. I speak from experience and agree while you will always love your air-cooled 911, this is the right side now.
 
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Carrera white, I think....
 
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I sure hope you are right about the IMS not being a Turbo problem. My motor only had 26K on the meter when I got it. It is so quiet you can hear a low RPM/Idle rattle that was concerning me. My wrench, who did the PPI, told me it sounds more like a chain tensioner that may be a bit loose and nothing to be concerned about. I've heard that before from Porsche mechanics so I was still worried (a little). If you are right I will be far more attentive to the road and less to the motor now! Again the 75 roars and sounds amazing! Light weight early cars with upgrades like mine are great buys if you can someone willing to let one go. You will pay a bit more than an SC but you will appreciate the "true Porsche" thrills and smells...
Excessive chatter could mean that there's a chain tensioner, fuel pump, or something else to address -- but keep in mind that these engines make a lot of noise (especially at idle). When I first got my car (40K miles ago), I often stopped by the shop and asked them what that noise was coming from the engine. The answer most of the time was "it's normal" .
 
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Yep that's it! Carrera White ... car color. Very clever. 'D
 
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Excessive chatter could mean that there's a chain tensioner, fuel pump, or something else to address -- but keep in mind that these engines make a lot of noise (especially at idle).
When I first got my car (40K miles ago), I often stopped by the shop and asked them what that noise was coming from the engine. The answer most of the time was "it's normal" .
Happy to know that. I am so fussy about my cars being in the best possible condition and noises are usually worth investigating. To enjoy these cars you gotta take care of them. They need a certain amount of operation and exercise but mine aren't daily drivers so they typically need very little. I have to admit most expenses are self-induced "Porsche Junkie" upgrades. My wrench always said "treat em right and they'll keep you satisfied".
 
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Happy to know that. I am so fussy about my cars being in the best possible condition and noises are usually worth investigating.
I know exactly what you mean. I always seem to notice when there's a new noise coming from a car and I always have to investigate. My wife hates it when I ask "what's that noise?" and it turns out to be a plastic water bottle, coins in the tray, or something in the glove box. One time, I spent quite a bit of time driving around our block, stopping, getting out, and looking underneath the passenger side of the car -- only to eventually find that something had fallen into the metal "well" under the passenger seat.
 
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They need a certain amount of operation and exercise but mine aren't daily drivers so they typically need very little. I have to admit most expenses are self-induced "Porsche Junkie" upgrades.
that is wisdom. moreso in the 996 turbo than any other 911 i've had ( or any car for that matter ).. and the mods. this one will make your head spin how much stuff is available, cosmetic as well as power.

back to "sitting" i found that they will leak and seep and stuff just goes south quickly if you let em sit for any extended period.. and i actually think daily driven 996t's are even more reliable. but i could be imagining that.


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