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Old Jul 25, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by layinback
3040 lbs / 900 crank = 3.3 lbs per horsepower.

Closer to a Hyabusa than a car.
5 pages and no mention of a wheelie ( or should it be a sissy ) bar.
sounds like a demon. congrats man!
 
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Originally Posted by layinback
I did the math. The 044s are good for about 800 whp (900 crank) on e85

We're gonna run 1.6 bar max until we get the 3rd pump. And we're

gonna set the safeguards on the ProEfi. It will cut the power at a given

value relative to fuel pressure, engine temp, afr etc...
i did the math too and in theory its close thats why i ran this setup and then added a 3rd pump. in reality not so much

kicker is being able to sustain high pressure AND high flow for a period of time to a large injector. the sooner the high boost comes on the longer you have to sustain high pressure.

here is a curve ball for your math. when you add multiple fuel pumps with a Y after them. its not a simple x2 in flow ratings. i did not know that.
 
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
5 pages and no mention of a wheelie ( or should it be a sissy ) bar.
sounds like a demon. congrats man!
talked to randy last nite. he was pedaling his schwinn bicycle to atlanta doing wheelies all the way! in interests of weight reduction he did however convert it to a girls bike by removing the cross bar and adding a card in the spokes for better crossflow sound and the tassles on the handlebars were braided for better aerodynamics
 
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Originally Posted by prodigymb
i did the math too and in theory its close thats why i ran this setup and then added a 3rd pump. in reality not so much

kicker is being able to sustain high pressure AND high flow for a period of time to a large injector. the sooner the high boost comes on the longer you have to sustain high pressure.

here is a curve ball for your math. when you add multiple fuel pumps with a Y after them. its not a simple x2 in flow ratings. i did not know that.
Thanks for the info Mark. And yes, I discovered the equation for the fuel

delivery
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
talked to randy last nite. he was pedaling his schwinn bicycle to atlanta doing wheelies all the way! in interests of weight reduction he did however convert it to a girls bike by removing the cross bar and adding a card in the spokes for better crossflow sound and the tassles on the handlebars were braided for better aerodynamics
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5 pages and no mention of a wheelie ( or should it be a sissy ) bar.
sounds like a demon. congrats man!

Who do you think I am, Eddy Bello?
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
talked to randy last nite. he was pedaling his schwinn bicycle to atlanta doing wheelies all the way! in interests of weight reduction he did however convert it to a girls bike by removing the cross bar and adding a card in the spokes for better crossflow sound and the tassles on the handlebars were braided for better aerodynamics
he told me the schwinn was in fact a stingray but he false badged it "cobra"
 
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hah! seen that. crazy, man crazy

all kiddin aside.. the car is gonna be a freakin rocket.
 
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hah! seen that. crazy, man crazy

all kiddin aside.. the car is gonna be a freakin rocket.
We didn't do the giant turbo setup.......not even the 3076s.


Decided on the 3073s. That's a Tial alpha 3071 w/ a 73 wheel.

Spool will be quicker then a 3076 and it will still make 800 +

wheel horsepower. I have a nice suspension setup with coil overs

so the car is much more then a straight line dragster. I did the math

last night and I think the car weighs less than 3015 lbs


It should have the performance of the 1980s Kremer 935. It weighs a

little more than the Kremer but it has a few more horses to offset the

weight difference. It should be track friendly but at this level, it may be

beyond my current skill level lol.



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Originally Posted by layinback
We didn't do the giant turbo setup.......not even the 3076s.


Decided on the 3073s. That's a Tial alpha 3071 w/ a 73 wheel.

Spool will be quicker then a 3076 and it will still make 800 +

wheel horsepower. I have a nice suspension setup with coil overs

so the car is much more then a straight line dragster. I did the math

last night and I think the car weighs less than 3015 lbs


It should have the performance of the 1980s Kremer 935. It weighs a

little more than the Kremer but it has a few more horses to offset the

weight difference. It should be track friendly but at this level, it may be

beyond my current skill level lol.



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i know you're building *primarily* for straightline accel? but up here. that would literally be too much car i'm reminded that from watching utubevids last night of the "singer" porsches theyre making out here. fkn amazing. have you seen em? 8200 revving 350hp a/c 3.8 cars ( drool.. )..kinda modeled after the 70s rsr's..but with some 993 bits for good measure. ya gotta check em out

so you've got basically 2.5X the hp.

i just hope you find the room to drive it! you're gonna need ga's version of the ring lol cos that ain't no canyon carver son
 
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Originally Posted by layinback
3040 lbs / 900 crank = 3.3 lbs per horsepower.

Closer to a Hyabusa than a car.
Are you counting the driver, or did you forget that again...
 
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i know you're building *primarily* for straightline accel? but up here. that would literally be too much car i'm reminded that from watching utubevids last night of the "singer" porsches theyre making out here. fkn amazing. have you seen em? 8200 revving 350hp a/c 3.8 cars ( drool.. )..kinda modeled after the 70s rsr's..but with some 993 bits for good measure. ya gotta check em out The Singer 911: All You Ever Wanted to Know - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube

so you've got basically 2.5X the hp.

i just hope you find the room to drive it! you're gonna need ga's version of the ring lol cos that ain't no canyon carver son

Amazing video! What a great recreation! The Singer was a great car,

as were the Martini and Kremers. Th factory '74RSR was the ultimate

911 in my opinion.


And I live in Bama not Georgia

This is a 3.8 with an engine management system. I can turn the boost waaay

down in 1st,2nd and 3rd. Not to mention it has 997 GT2 gears. This is a

wonderful setup for road course and drag strip. Best of both worlds
 
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Are you counting the driver, or did you forget that again...
No no no! Technically, weight to hp is always done with 1/2 tank and fluids

and no driver. We only add driver for the lexicon of chat boards and such.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
talked to randy last nite. he was pedaling his schwinn bicycle to atlanta doing wheelies all the way! in interests of weight reduction he did however convert it to a girls bike by removing the cross bar and adding a card in the spokes for better crossflow sound and the tassles on the handlebars were braided for better aerodynamics
I can't breathe
 
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Actually, I would replace the spokes with titanium and handlebars and

crossbar would be carbon fiber. Oh, and the pedals would be balsa wood
 


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