! quart every 300 miles.
! quart every 300 miles.
The dealer finally agrees that it is time to do something about it. I'm at 4000 miles and it is not getting better. They went through the process of monitoring; getting Porsche involved etc.
They are suggesting dropping the engine; opening it up and replacing the rings. This is a NEW 2005 Turbo S. What shoud / could I ask for? Extended warranty? I hate the idea of opening up the engine after just 4000 miles.
They are suggesting dropping the engine; opening it up and replacing the rings. This is a NEW 2005 Turbo S. What shoud / could I ask for? Extended warranty? I hate the idea of opening up the engine after just 4000 miles.
Aye yae yae! I would be most unhappy. Quite honestly, if you bought it (not leased) and you planned on keeping it for a long time, I would make sure I lemoned it ... if you catch my drift.
If it were me, I would not want a local dealer doing a
ring job. I would want one of the Porsche-supplied
replacement motors. They have a good reputation
as being more carefully built. I would also make noise
till I got an extended warranty.
This is if the car has had no other problems and it's
configured as you like it.
Joe
ring job. I would want one of the Porsche-supplied
replacement motors. They have a good reputation
as being more carefully built. I would also make noise
till I got an extended warranty.
This is if the car has had no other problems and it's
configured as you like it.
Joe
I would first try switching oil from factory to a good dino oil. I like swepco. The try the break in process all over again.
Bring car up to temp (oil & water). Do a long full throttle 4th gear pull. Drive normal for 30 mins and repeat process at least 10 times.
There is no way in hell I would let the dealer replace the rings! If its not better by 10,000 miles I would pursue the "lemon" clause.
Bring car up to temp (oil & water). Do a long full throttle 4th gear pull. Drive normal for 30 mins and repeat process at least 10 times.
There is no way in hell I would let the dealer replace the rings! If its not better by 10,000 miles I would pursue the "lemon" clause.
In my case, the excess oil usage was due to bad turbos, once the turbos were rebuilt, the problem went away, when this happened my car was out of warranty, if I where you, I would make them take the car back and get me a new (lemon law that thing).
YIKES. I never considered the lemon law. I think I will try that "break in" procedure. If the rings are OK just net seated well - it is worth a try.
On a side not: Can excessive oil burning damage the engine? Or is it OK lubrication?
On a side not: Can excessive oil burning damage the engine? Or is it OK lubrication?
Nomally lemon law requires that three attempts are made to correct the problem. Then by law you pay back the mileage (varies state to state) .40 per mile and they give you the difference.
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If you are burning that much oil, then you are seeing smoke out of the tail pipes. If it is light blue smoke, it would indicate valve guides. If it is darker, indication would be rings. I suppose you are using the ****ty 0w40 oil?
Follow this procedure and see if it reduces the burning:
Proper breakin must be done in the first 100 -200 miles and below is the proper procedure:
1. Always bring engine to FULL operating temperature before high revs.
2. Drive the car easy for the first 10 miles or so, varying the rpm's from 2,000 - 5,000.
3. Then, start bringing the engine up to maximum rpm's and letting the engine bring the revs back down by coasting in gear.
4. Repeat several times in order to create maximum heat in the cylinders.
5. Drive around at lower RPM's for several more miles, remembering to vary the speed of the engine every couple of miles.
6. Repeat number 3, 4 and 5.
7. Park car and let the engine cool down overnight.
8. Repeat all the above 2 more times.
Your engine is now fully broken in correctly and can be driven hard from here on.
Jim
Follow this procedure and see if it reduces the burning:
Proper breakin must be done in the first 100 -200 miles and below is the proper procedure:
1. Always bring engine to FULL operating temperature before high revs.
2. Drive the car easy for the first 10 miles or so, varying the rpm's from 2,000 - 5,000.
3. Then, start bringing the engine up to maximum rpm's and letting the engine bring the revs back down by coasting in gear.
4. Repeat several times in order to create maximum heat in the cylinders.
5. Drive around at lower RPM's for several more miles, remembering to vary the speed of the engine every couple of miles.
6. Repeat number 3, 4 and 5.
7. Park car and let the engine cool down overnight.
8. Repeat all the above 2 more times.
Your engine is now fully broken in correctly and can be driven hard from here on.
Jim
Jim, I will give that a shot this weekend. Yes, I am using the 0w40. Partly because the dealer sealed everything so I can't add or remove any oil. They are monitoring and adding when it needs it (every week 2 quarts). I don't notice any smoke. Other than the occasional high volume after a start.
I had an 01 TT that used a quart every 500 miles and Porsche replaced the motor. A few years ago they didn't want the dealers going into the motor maybe that policy has changed. I would push hard for a new motor especially since that was their policy for a few years. Your going to have a problem trying the lemon law especially if you don't let them try to fix it. Good Luck
I just bought a 2005 TT S Cab and after the first 300 miles (the car had 2200 on it when I got it) it's down almost exactly a quart. I just called the dealer and their service guy said that it's "normal to burn a quart every 300 miles on a TT" he went on to say that it "will go down to a quart every 700-1000 miles once the engine has about 6000 miles on it"
Reading the messages here seems very contridictory. Some people was it's normal and others say Porsche is replacing these engines or turbos if they burn that much oil.
Is there any way to get a definitive anser from Porsche - that is, direct contact with HQ?
I've never had a new car burn oil and this just doesn't seem right to me...
Reading the messages here seems very contridictory. Some people was it's normal and others say Porsche is replacing these engines or turbos if they burn that much oil.
Is there any way to get a definitive anser from Porsche - that is, direct contact with HQ?
I've never had a new car burn oil and this just doesn't seem right to me...
Keep a log; or go to the dealer for a top off every time. I did both. At first they tend to ignore, but they pay attention when you show up every week for a top off.
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