Go to AMS' website and the product page for these turbos. In the description section, click the "images" tab. The dyno graphs are there. Dynojet.

Edit: no 700whp graphs, to my knowledge. 550 whp on pump, 600 whp on race.

 

So you are saying your friend has a 997.1 with our ALPHA 9 kit and is only making 600hp Crank? Our kit doesn't work with a europipe exhaust and our kit comes with those "oversized turbo in/out piping" Are you sure he has our kit? We dont sell it the way you are describing.

Can you put him in contact with me...there has to be something wrong.

My email is eric@amsperformance.com

Eric

 

can you explain why?

 

We designed The Alpha 9 kit using an AWE system which was on our 997.1 and all fit without any issues.

AMW supplied us with an EP1 system while building his Alpha 9 Porsche and we found it didn't fit. This is not an issue with the exhaust as its a beautiful piece, but more the fact our kits pushes the exhaust back slightly. This combined with the large muffler in the EP1 kit put it too close to the rear bumper and we didn't feel comfortable with its location.

Regards

Larry

 

So that means the turbos are moved from the stock location?

 

Thanks for the explanation.

A30's fit very well with a Europipe
Those A28's must be totally different.

 

The turbo's are a direct bolt on to stock manifolds, but the exhaust flange does sit back approx 3/4" compared to the stock turbo.

Larry

 

No problem. We're always happy to answer any question that may come up.

We do not use off the shelf A28's as Martin has mentioned and surely the case with the location changes.


Larry

 

Eric, my apologies. I just checked my mails and in the end he bought his TiAL A28s -"with billett GTX compressors"- from 911tuning. There was some alternatives on the table when making the decision and I remembered wrong.

 

What do you expect Pete? If they did it would have been to much of a risk as they have already made all the big claims about how great their product is and it would have destroyed their reputation in an instant.

AMS are clever and know what they are doing. It's great for them as they make a lot of money but I feel so sorry for the people that lose their money.

 

You are determined to discredit us. As we have said multiple times...if you want to test our cores using your "independent" testing methods then buy the kit. If not, stop asking...for the last time we are not going to give you a free set of intercoolers.

Eric

 

AMS can you guys show me the dyno wtmith 700whp for tge 996tt pn 16g billets???

 

No dude you discredited yourself, I am merely pointing it out.

I am not asking you to give me a free set where did I ever say that?

Also there is no way in hell I would fit your cheap cores to my Porsche turbo are you buzzing?

If you want to run the same test I can put you in touch with the company that ran it for me, it's not a problem.

There is no need to send them to me and the only reason I mentioned it previously in my test thread was to collate some hard core data to back up the products, which you want to avoid doing.

 

We never claimed we made 700whp on Billet K16 turbos. We made a little over 670whp:



The 800hp comes from a crank to whp estimate stemming from roughly a 15% drivetrain loss.

Despite the dyno some think we are lying. They can keep saying it didn't happen until they are blue in the face but it did. We are a very honest and transparent company no matter what some would like you to believe. The fact that we have spent the past 20 pages trying to prove that is honestly out of character for us.

It's obvious a few members in here have a clear agenda to discredit us. We are not going to convince them of anything, their minds are made up. They are not trying to protect anyone but rather to attack for the sake of attacking. It's honestly juvenile at this point. We are just trying to protect our name and counter some of these blatant lies and attacks. We will keep doing what we have done for over a decade; make honest parts that perform, fit like stock and prove all claims with real data and track testing.

If anyone has a question feel free to PM, email call etc.

Eric

 

look, you want to sell cores. We get it and so does everyone else. Stop wasting both of our time and either buy the cores to test them or move on. I'm not sending you cores unless you buy them. You are not going to bully us into it.

You can take shots at our intercoolers or any other parts all you want. The simple truth is our parts work, they break records and have satisfied customers for over a decade.

Eric