Weight of stock hood vs. CF hood, 22lb weight savings
#31
Shorai Battery - 4lbs
Straight Pipes - 7 lbs
Remove rear bumper support 19 lbs
Take one seat out (25-30 lbs)
There are composite hoods out there that are cheaper than typical CF and weight 12 lbs (downside, must be painted).
Straight Pipes - 7 lbs
Remove rear bumper support 19 lbs
Take one seat out (25-30 lbs)
There are composite hoods out there that are cheaper than typical CF and weight 12 lbs (downside, must be painted).
#32
Li-Ion batterry - checked, ordered from liteblox.de - capacity12,5Ah/37,5Ah (nom / Pb-eq)
Straight Pipes - already running those
Bumper support - thats still safe in case of an accident on the track?
One seat out - will do it soon
Have no problem to paint the hood, will search on ebay too as I have seen lots of offeres there
Straight Pipes - already running those
Bumper support - thats still safe in case of an accident on the track?
One seat out - will do it soon
Have no problem to paint the hood, will search on ebay too as I have seen lots of offeres there
#33
if your only taking the seat out for track duty dont forget to remoi\ve the seat belt receptcle and leave it plugged in inside the car. tie wrap it to the harness on the floorboard. then you wont have an airbag light when yopu plug the battery back in
#34
The irony of this weight saving thing is that most drivers that plop down in the car are obese or close to it (me included). My ideal weight is 50 or 60 lbs less. That equals a LOT of removed / lightened parts... Need to get back on that diet...
#35
True. Because its easier to put the onus on the car to lose weight instead of ourselves. It's the fast food generation, how much stuff do we pay for when a little effort would accomplish the same thing?
#36
Li-Ion batterry - checked, ordered from liteblox.de - capacity12,5Ah/37,5Ah (nom / Pb-eq)
Straight Pipes - already running those
Bumper support - thats still safe in case of an accident on the track?
One seat out - will do it soon
Have no problem to paint the hood, will search on ebay too as I have seen lots of offeres there
Straight Pipes - already running those
Bumper support - thats still safe in case of an accident on the track?
One seat out - will do it soon
Have no problem to paint the hood, will search on ebay too as I have seen lots of offeres there
#37
Havent even touched on gutting savings yet. Taking a seat out is hardly gutting and has nothing to do with legality. Takes a few miuntes to reinstall. That or spring for super expensive light weight seats. You lost the stock looking when you put a big ole wing on the back. These are relatively cheap ways to save weight.
The rear bumper support is made for like 5mph impacts. If you have any serious impact, they arent helping much. In DE getting rear ended is super rare.
There are always sacrifices for more speed.
The rear bumper support is made for like 5mph impacts. If you have any serious impact, they arent helping much. In DE getting rear ended is super rare.
There are always sacrifices for more speed.
#38
Havent even touched on gutting savings yet. Taking a seat out is hardly gutting and has nothing to do with legality. Takes a few miuntes to reinstall. That or spring for super expensive light weight seats. You lost the stock looking when you put a big ole wing on the back. These are relatively cheap ways to save weight.
The rear bumper support is made for like 5mph impacts. If you have any serious impact, they arent helping much. In DE getting rear ended is super rare.
There are always sacrifices for more speed.
The rear bumper support is made for like 5mph impacts. If you have any serious impact, they arent helping much. In DE getting rear ended is super rare.
There are always sacrifices for more speed.
And yes, there are always sacrafices for more speed.
Last edited by pwdrhound; 11-13-2016 at 03:24 PM.
#39
None of my suggestions were "gutting" the car. But 3100 is doable with an interior.
As far as trailering, it may be good for pride but that's about it in this hobby with it's inherent risks. An off is not always in your control (spilled fluid), and neither are failures (tire, gear, boost hose....... hub). You also limit the distance you can realistically travel and how much use on your tires you can go to an event with, assuming you aren't towing a small trailer with your car, which does give you a little more flexibility. And you will still almost always be slower than someone with equal talent/car and a trailer due to the limitations of driving to the track.
As far as trailering, it may be good for pride but that's about it in this hobby with it's inherent risks. An off is not always in your control (spilled fluid), and neither are failures (tire, gear, boost hose....... hub). You also limit the distance you can realistically travel and how much use on your tires you can go to an event with, assuming you aren't towing a small trailer with your car, which does give you a little more flexibility. And you will still almost always be slower than someone with equal talent/car and a trailer due to the limitations of driving to the track.
#40
I woudnt risk to get of the bumper support in this case, more thinking how to remove the stereo, amps, speakers and still keeping a clean look dash error free.. not sure that is possible but will try soon
#41
None of my suggestions were "gutting" the car. But 3100 is doable with an interior.
As far as trailering, it may be good for pride but that's about it in this hobby with it's inherent risks. An off is not always in your control (spilled fluid), and neither are failures (tire, gear, boost hose....... hub). You also limit the distance you can realistically travel and how much use on your tires you can go to an event with, assuming you aren't towing a small trailer with your car, which does give you a little more flexibility. And you will still almost always be slower than someone with equal talent/car and a trailer due to the limitations of driving to the track.
As far as trailering, it may be good for pride but that's about it in this hobby with it's inherent risks. An off is not always in your control (spilled fluid), and neither are failures (tire, gear, boost hose....... hub). You also limit the distance you can realistically travel and how much use on your tires you can go to an event with, assuming you aren't towing a small trailer with your car, which does give you a little more flexibility. And you will still almost always be slower than someone with equal talent/car and a trailer due to the limitations of driving to the track.
I always trailer my car for the reasons you point out but still have the option of hopping in IF I wanted to go out for a couple of hours to make a few hot laps without the hassles of picking up the trailer, loading, unloading, blah blah. For many guys it's fun to see how far a street legal platform can be pushed versus turning laps in a single purpose race prepped car on slicks... I enjoy doing both...
Last edited by pwdrhound; 11-13-2016 at 03:39 PM.
#42
Leaving the bumper support is the smart way to go for your use Fadi. Just PM'd you the part number for the front suspension parts. Cheers...
#43
Again, gutting is a relative term. I never said 3100 w/ interior is not doable. I said getting "much below 3100" is not going to be easy.
I always trailer my car for the reasons you point out but still have the option of hopping in IF I wanted to go out for a couple of hours to make a few hot laps without the hassles of picking up the trailer, loading, unloading, blah blah. For many guys it's fun to see how far a street legal platform can be pushed versus turning laps in a single purpose race prepped car on slicks... I enjoy doing both...
I always trailer my car for the reasons you point out but still have the option of hopping in IF I wanted to go out for a couple of hours to make a few hot laps without the hassles of picking up the trailer, loading, unloading, blah blah. For many guys it's fun to see how far a street legal platform can be pushed versus turning laps in a single purpose race prepped car on slicks... I enjoy doing both...
#44
The vendor I used in England is unfortunately out of business Fadi. For hoods I'm using a company in the US that provides CF parts for PMNA.
I'm at 3160 (1433kg) with 3/4 tank, CF hood, and inconel exhaust, shaved carpets, A/C delete, sunroof delete, roll bar, etc. I can't see getting to 1400 without gutting the interior or other parts of the car if you wanna keep it dual purpose.
I'm at 3160 (1433kg) with 3/4 tank, CF hood, and inconel exhaust, shaved carpets, A/C delete, sunroof delete, roll bar, etc. I can't see getting to 1400 without gutting the interior or other parts of the car if you wanna keep it dual purpose.
#45
did mine after pwdrhound posted doing his. a plastic scraper and your hands are all thats needed. grab it and peel as much as you can scrap the rest with a scraper. i left some at the edges so i wouldnt tear the seams all in all i got about 17 lbs off the carpet and it fits as stock.