Can anyone help me understand why Porsche is not getting more aggressive on the new Turbo? How about making the front end more aggressive? 500Hp?

I will be interested to see how many 996TT owners run down and pay the $150K for a slightly different look and basically the same performance.

 

Latest word: 480 hp. Price: 4% over 996 Turbo.

Surely they will roll out a Turbo S a year later at 500+ and make even more gobs of money.

 

From what I have seen, not me. I just bought a 2004 CS. If the new 997TT had looked more promising, I would probably have kept my 355, not bought the CS and would probably have tried to get my name on a list or whatever to get one of the first new turbos.

Both the 993TT and 996TT were awesome ground breaking new cars. The 997 TT is too close to the 996TT to be exciting, especially when the 996TT has been around for so long. Porsche got fat, happy and complacent. A new 600+ hp Ferrari 599 looks better and better.

 

I still want to know why they are not turbochgarging the GT3 motor and giving us the 8,000+ RPM capability we all want. They woudln't even need that much boost with some lower compression pistons.

Even the Z06 has a highr redline than our TTs!

 

I don't think 500 hp will keep up with the competition any more. Porsche turbos used to hang with the more expensive and more fragile Italins. The Italians are now getting more durable and more powerful.

The problem is more than just power. A better front end, a cool tail, huge inlets in front of the rear wheels (forget that Boxter looking crap on the 997TT) and 500+ hp sounds good. The 997TT would have been an awesome car back in 2001 or 2002. Porsche is about 4 years behind in power and in design.

 

seriously, why would porsche need to? They've always been at the low end of the game and have always continued to perform w/ the rest. Why is the magic 500# so important to people all the time?

 

All I'll say, is at least Porsche is honest and infact underrates the power of their cars. The same can't be said about Ferrari, especially with the 360CS which have dyno'd at a calculated 370 crank hp range and apparently weigh more than advertised according to some owners on Fchat.
I think the 997TT is going to evolve into something great. Look at how well the base 997 performs compared to the 996.
Ferrari takes way too much advantage of the marketability of their cars. The 360CS being a prime example of that.

 

I really do not what you are basing this on. Especially since the car has not even been launched yet. To estimate ability on merely the car's power level is pretty absurd. I would only expect that from a young boy reading magazines because he cannot actually drive the car.

If the standard 997 is any indicator, I would say the 997 Turbo is going to be a worthy successor. But, we will all just have to wait and see.


As fanboy'ish as it sounds, I have faith in Porsche as nearly every car they have made has been better than the ones before it. I would not expect anything less from the world's most celebrated name in auto racing.

 

Performance wise, I am referring to the F430 and apparently the new Ferrari 12 cylinder will have about 620 hp.

Porsche can underate all they want. That is not going to help me want to buy their cars if their cars are dated in looks and not keeping up with the competition. The CS is a more exciting car to drive than a TT to the senses and I think more visually appealing.

The question is will people being waiting in line to trade their 996TTs for 997TTs due to the marginal boost in performance and the change in aesthetics. Not me. I would rather keep my 996TT and get some of the other stuff out there that is ground breaking, edgy or "new."

 

Difficult and rather silly to comment on a car that has not even been released to the public yet.
We'll just have to wait and see.

The 12 cylinder Ferrari engine will likely be in a large GT car so that really does not make for a comparison.
As far as looks, that is really a personal thing. The F430 is not as appealing to me as the 360, yet I personally don't find the 360 to be that great looking of a car.
Keep in mind the price point on all of these cars too and how much more the Ferrari's are.

 

Not only price, but usability. How many F430's/360's are driven 4-6 days/week. Have 7-12,000 miles/yr? Pretty unusual I think. Porsche's, pretty common.

 

I think my true question has been somewhat misunderstood. It is true the 997TT has not been released to the public; although we have several photos in the magazines and on-line to visually know what it will look like. This car will hit North America late this year that being said the look of the car is 99% established.

I am really getting to the point that Porsche is not making the Turbo (their flagship) more aggressive and distinguishable. It looks like a slightly new front with a new interior. The turbo needs to look more TURBO.IMO

 

Exactly. I have been saying this for some time. I bought 3 new 996TTs and had two 993TTs and I really do not think I will buy a 997TT unless it looks drastically different than what we have seen.

Usability: Ferraris and cars like the Gallardo are getting very usable and very dependable. Much more so than the Diablos and 355s.

I put 30,000 miles on my 04 TT cab in the last 15 months. You could easily do this with a 360 or 430. The service costs would be very high and the resale value would take a beating.

Do you guys not remeber when the 996TT came out. To me it was the coolest car I had ever seen. The 997TT does not have that impact upon me and most of the car people I hang with.

 

We have seen pictures. It will have to change drastically for me to want one. Do you not remeber your thoughts upon first seeing the 996TT. That was like a Porsche supercar. It left a heck of an impression. The 997TT does not really leave any impression other than, been there and done that.

Then again, I have my eye on a Zonda right now. Zondas make me feel like Porsche Turbos used to.

 

FWIW, I think you'd have to look long and hard to find a dissatisfied CS owner. Everyone I know with one is ecstatic.

Gary