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IPD plenum vs ESMOTOR gt3 style plenum power difference??

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Old Mar 12, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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IPD plenum vs ESMOTOR gt3 style plenum power difference??

Im looking at with upgrading to a 997.1 competition IPD center plenum or the esmotor center aluminum plenum upgrade to wrk do to a set of gt3 runners I have.

Anyone have any flow or direct power number differences??

I have a very highly modded 1000whp 996 turbo with 997.1 runners at the moment.

I need to order something this week before tuning is done. Looking for some info from the experts.
 
Old Mar 16, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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you only gain at mid range with the ipd and that is the the point you loose traction and dont need more / over 5000 rpm you gain nothing and perhaps you loose a little bit with a 74mm IPD)
 

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Not an expert on the ES Motor intake vs the GT3 or even turbo intakes in general, but as far as the IPD goes:
Different motor, different set of circumstances, but the IPD is worth even less on a turbo than a NA motor. Go with whatever center plenum will allow you to connect your tb to the side plenums/runners size-wise.
 
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that vid is misleading for a couple reasons, and one you fairly and correctly alluded to.

i.e. namely the "testing" was done on an n/a 997. the other that the focus was on power (hp) gains, rather than increased mid range tq - and that's the real story. when i installed my 68mm ipd i didn't want to go with a 74mm tb etc as it was low and mid range where my car lived, and did most of its screaming up ( and down but who cares about downhill lol ) very steep canyon hills. i didn't want any power gains that required higher upper range rpm's as the larger tb and associated parts "need", to perform maximally.

i too was more than circumspect about ipd's claims of whatever added HP owing to a more free flowing plenum.

but the ipd shines over the stock plenum for "mid range grunt". you feel it instantly and i promise it's not the "i feel it cos i bought it phenomenon" lol.

its genuine mid range tq increase not "power" per se. but as in added hp? = nah.


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If you are not running gt3 heads stay with the 997.1 setup
 
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Quick mockup of new manifold from SRM. I ceramic coasted the halves and need to redo them - but gives you a good idea.






 
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Originally Posted by winnigt2
you only gain at mid range with the ipd and that is the the point you loose traction and dont need more / over 5000 rpm you gain nothing and perhaps you loose a little bit with a 74mm IPD)
Exact OPPOSITE of what our testing results bore out...

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...l#post16576052
 
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Exact OPPOSITE of what our testing results bore out...

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...l#post16576052
i would never use a ipd plenum again / only the 74mm TB is good for performance / i didnt gain nothing at my car with a ipd / i use a 997ttts intake with 74mm TB made for my self / my car was running 352km/h GPS electronical limited at 7500rpm with and without a ipd plenum
 

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