996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruiner
Mike,

Keep in mind (and I didn't think about it until today) that the GT2 (I believe) might have rolled fenders from the factory in order to accommodate the 12" wheels. I'm trying to recall the fenders on a GT2 and I remember one to be rolled, but I wasn't sure if that was after market or not.

As for your neighbors, they need a good "wake up" call.
I will keep that in mind...A few guys down here know some good people so if it comes down to it I may have to do so...modding always is fun!

I am SERIOUS!!! The whole of the downstairs was reverbing and shaking this morning...I want to call my GF later and find out if she could feel it on the 3rd floor!

So, does it take awhile for the coils to settle once the car is raised up?

Thanks Brandon!
 
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Mike, congrats bro! Car looks awesome! Good thing you waited for the right car. What exhaust does it have on it?

With a 12" wheel, I would expect the rear lip to be huge....what size is yours? Thats the only reason I would think the offsets are a little off.

Here's a couple pics of mine, (not sure the width/offset, I had Ron - Vipertestarossa order them for me) and my car is lowered 30mm lower than stock, about 2 fingers width space.

If it's nice out this Saturday, we should grab some coffee so we can check out your car!



 
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Originally Posted by BMWDEMON
I will keep that in mind...A few guys down here know some good people so if it comes down to it I may have to do so...modding always is fun!

I am SERIOUS!!! The whole of the downstairs was reverbing and shaking this morning...I want to call my GF later and find out if she could feel it on the 3rd floor!

So, does it take awhile for the coils to settle once the car is raised up?

Thanks Brandon!
You are raising it back up? Since this is a full coilover system, your struts/shocks are matched to the spring rate of the coils. The setup is true. It shouldn't require any "settling" or anything like that. When you adjust it (raise it up or lower it), that's it.
 
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Mike, your ride height should be fine. If you decide to do any adjustments, TPC in MD seem to be the porsche suspension experts in this area. Several 6speeders have gone their and had great results.
 
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Ruiner, no I don't want to change anything! I think it is perfect to be honest...really you did it right.

Maxwell - they are 12 in the back...what is yours? Yours sit straight up and down mine looked like they stuck out...we'll see I have to get the tire thing fixed first, get 4 more OEM bolts and then work out the rest.

The reason I asked about settling is that when you raise the car up to change the tires it take a few minutes after letting the car down for the car to settle back to its ride heaight it was set to. I was thinking since the coils are different than just plain springs that it would take more time for it to settle since there is at least a 3-4 finger gap now where with the OEM wheels only/maybe two...it is my foggy mind working...I am still very tired from lack of sleep!

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Maxwell, let's shoot for Saturday if it is good...what time? Let's do the hardbean in Annapolis?
 
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hmm...the stock rims/tires should be almost exactly the same height as the 19's....so the car should have sat right back where it was before. Definitely not an inch difference. Wait until you get the air/lugs, and then take it around the block. Im sure it will be at the same height.

I pop my wheels off all the time, to clean the calipers etc., and when I let the jack down, it goes right back to it's original stance.

Not sure if the weather is going to hold this weekend, but if it does, I'll be up for a drive.
 
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Originally Posted by maxwell
hmm...the stock rims/tires should be almost exactly the same height as the 19's....so the car should have sat right back where it was before. Definitely not an inch difference. Wait until you get the air/lugs, and then take it around the block. Im sure it will be at the same height.

I pop my wheels off all the time, to clean the calipers etc., and when I let the jack down, it goes right back to it's original stance.

Not sure if the weather is going to hold this weekend, but if it does, I'll be up for a drive.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. There shouldn't be that much difference between the two given that they are the same height more or less.
 
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Originally Posted by maxwell
hmm...the stock rims/tires should be almost exactly the same height as the 19's....so the car should have sat right back where it was before. Definitely not an inch difference. Wait until you get the air/lugs, and then take it around the block. Im sure it will be at the same height.

I pop my wheels off all the time, to clean the calipers etc., and when I let the jack down, it goes right back to it's original stance.

Not sure if the weather is going to hold this weekend, but if it does, I'll be up for a drive.
Max - your rears aren't 12"? Are those still Conti's you are wearing?
 
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Originally Posted by Ruiner
The suspension won't settle as I've had it on for 1 year. As we discussed earlier, it was setup for 19x8.5" and 19x11" on the HRE 540Rs.

Keep in mind that you have two options:

A. I had 19x11" wheels on mine, but yours are 19x12". I am sure that an 11" wheel would "tuck" better or get your offset checked out to make sure that it is perfect for the 996TT.
B. You can increase the negative camber (they are at -1.4 to -1.5 right now I do believe - factory spec). If you do that, you will get more inner tire wear.
I have been told with 12" rears (assuming they are the correct offset for a 996tt) and 315 series tires, the alignment/camber specs should be set to those of the GT2 for optimum look/performance.

I have no first hand knowledge as of yet. This is what has been reported to me via a tuner shop.
 

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Hmmm, OK...well I will get what I need fixed and the rest of it should fall into place...thanks for the info guys and Maxwell hopefully the weather holds!

Amer - we'll have to get together when you get your stuff...when is arrival date? What IForged did you get?

in fact we should start planning a Porsche MAR get together and do a photoshoot, etc...
 
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there are a ton of threads/discussions about GT2 ride height on the TT. GT2 height is VERY low. It does look good, but it is too low IMO for daily driving. Also, if you run PSS9's (Mike, not a problem for you) you can't go as low as the GT2 anyway. There is an issue with the car riding on the bump stops, essentially taking away the effectiveness of your suspension.

Im not sure how wide my wheels are technically. I had ron (Vipertestarossa) order them for me, as he is a dealer and had the exact same wheels on his tt, so I wanted the same specs. I've never really understood the desire for a wider wheel, if the tire is the same size? 315 on a 11" wheel vs. 315 on a 12" wheel? But knowing that the GT2 runs a 12" wheel, you shouldn't have any problems, except maybe having to roll the rear fenders, as the front ones come rolled from the factory.
 
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Originally Posted by maxwell
there are a ton of threads/discussions about GT2 ride height on the TT. GT2 height is VERY low. It does look good, but it is too low IMO for daily driving. Also, if you run PSS9's (Mike, not a problem for you) you can't go as low as the GT2 anyway. There is an issue with the car riding on the bump stops, essentially taking away the effectiveness of your suspension.

Im not sure how wide my wheels are technically. I had ron (Vipertestarossa) order them for me, as he is a dealer and had the exact same wheels on his tt, so I wanted the same specs. I've never really understood the desire for a wider wheel, if the tire is the same size? 315 on a 11" wheel vs. 315 on a 12" wheel? But knowing that the GT2 runs a 12" wheel, you shouldn't have any problems, except maybe having to roll the rear fenders, as the front ones come rolled from the factory.
I cna't be as low as the GT2? NOT that I want to be...I am fine with the height I have it on...I ordered the wheels directly from Vince as he is my distro and he gave me the specs...I didn't even look into it!
 
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I cna't be as low as the GT2? NOT that I want to be...I am fine with the height I have it on...I ordered the wheels directly from Vince as he is my distro and he gave me the specs...I didn't even look into it!
He was saying that if you have the PSS9s you can't go as low as the GT2. I believe that the JICs will get you there, however, as they don't have the infamous "bump stop" issue.
 
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He was saying that if you have the PSS9s you can't go as low as the GT2. I believe that the JICs will get you there, however, as they don't have the infamous "bump stop" issue.

Ahhh got it...I am a bit "dumb" today from lack of sleep...B I am going to email you in a few minutes...
 
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Hmmm, OK...well I will get what I need fixed and the rest of it should fall into place...thanks for the info guys and Maxwell hopefully the weather holds!

Amer - we'll have to get together when you get your stuff...when is arrival date? What IForged did you get?

in fact we should start planning a Porsche MAR get together and do a photoshoot, etc...


I am getting a new wheel in Iforged precision series. Its called the Astra. Here are a couple of pics of them on a Viper and a Supra. Actually if you click on the Viper pics you can browse actual photos of my '03 tt as it sits now. The wheels should be in around the third week of March hopefully. My JIC coilover system is going on next week.

I'm all up for a Spring Maryland Porsche meet/photoshoot. I'll assist in any way I can.








 

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