996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

(Video) K16/24's vs. K24's

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:23 AM
  #1  
TKDalumni's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,282
From: Down the street on the left
Rep Power: 155
TKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really nice
(Video) K16/24's vs. K24's

Identical cars with different turbo's running on 91 octane. About 60 to 140ish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dqN9iw3JcQ

The camera is in the K24 car...
 

Last edited by TKDalumni; Jul 1, 2007 at 09:34 AM.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #2  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Which is which?
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:35 AM
  #3  
TKDalumni's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,282
From: Down the street on the left
Rep Power: 155
TKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really niceTKDalumni is just really nice
Fixed.........
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:38 AM
  #4  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Two guys in the K24 car and one guy in the K16/24 car?

With the same amount of people, they probably would've been indentical in acceleration....possibly even giving the K24 car the advantage.

Thanks for posting the vid.
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:56 AM
  #5  
cpu77's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 685
From: On the East Coast
Rep Power: 48
cpu77 is infamous around these parts
Yeah for a set of plain jane k16/24 all of the benefit would be gone by 60mph!

My hybrids are not stock and have more flow. That being said the biggest gain in hybrids is low speed spool up!
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:59 AM
  #6  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by cpu77
My hybrids are not stock and have more flow.

I thought that all K16/24 Hybrids were made by Kevin M. Are you positive that yours and the ones in the video (sold by Speed Gallery) are not the same ones?
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 12:06 PM
  #7  
John D's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,293
From: Northeast US
Rep Power: 82
John D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to beholdJohn D is a splendid one to behold
When I bought my K16/24's at The Speed Gallery, the low clearance version was an upgrade option from a standard K16/24.

Speed Gallery does have another source for the K16/24 hybrid - mine were from the other source and were not Kevin's "zero clearance", but .003 clearance, which Speed Gallery touted as basically the same as a broken in pair of zero clearance, without the elaborate break-in procedure being neccessary. According to SG, stock clearance is approximately .009
 

Last edited by John D; Jul 1, 2007 at 01:25 PM.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 12:08 PM
  #8  
KPG's Avatar
KPG
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,726
From: Michigan
Rep Power: 416
KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
I thought that all K16/24 Hybrids were made by Kevin M.
Scott, lots of knock offs out there. Some are even sold as ZC and are not. Buyer beware.....
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #9  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by KPG
Scott, lots of knock offs out there. Some are even sold as ZC and are not. Buyer beware.....
Gotcha. I didn't realize that. Thanks, Kev.
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 02:38 PM
  #10  
WOODTSTER's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,710
From: MPLS, MN USA
Rep Power: 466
WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !WOODTSTER Is a GOD !
I bought Zero clearance for my 993TT, my buddy had non zero clearance
(same car, same tune, same everything) and in THIS PARTICULAR case
the highly touted ZC made no difference/was not worth the money. Reason;
how can you measure the performance difference between the two as it is so
negligible. Dont get me wrong, Kevin is
a great turbo builder but he does not have a monopoly on turbo technology
or Great turbo chargers by any means. $ for $, I will take my Cheapo
K24/18G's...
My opinion only and is worth about 2 cents.

MK
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 03:08 PM
  #11  
KPG's Avatar
KPG
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,726
From: Michigan
Rep Power: 416
KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
I bought Zero clearance for my 993TT, my buddy had non zero clearance
(same car, same tune, same everything) and in THIS PARTICULAR case
the highly touted ZC made no difference/was not worth the money. Reason;
how can you measure the performance difference between the two as it is so
negligible. Dont get me wrong, Kevin is
a great turbo builder but he does not have a monopoly on turbo technology
or Great turbo chargers by any means. $ for $, I will take my Cheapo
K24/18G's...
My opinion only and is worth about 2 cents.

MK
Marty, first off we are on the 996TT board not the 993TT board so it hard to compare between generations. Second your "cheapo" 24/18G's are part of a very expensive larger package, sure the turbos themselves may be cheaper but factor in the overall cost for the package and it may not be such a deal. Yes , Kevin does not have a monopoly of turbo technology but he does do it himself instead of sending them out to a third party like your 18G's were and by keeping them entirely inhouse he can control the details both large and small. As for dollar for dollar performance, I have yet to see a higher trap on an AWD TT than my 128.2 with ZC turbos so apparently the technology works. My opinion only and is worth about 2 cents....
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 03:11 PM
  #12  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by KPG
I have yet to see a higher trap on an AWD TT than my 128.2 with ZC turbos so apparently the technology works. ...
Kevin,

*Totally* different subject; but what do you mean? There are a couple AWD TT's that have trapped higher than 128. Are you talking in the 700 HP range and under?
 

Last edited by Divexxtreme; Jul 1, 2007 at 06:04 PM.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 03:13 PM
  #13  
KPG's Avatar
KPG
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,726
From: Michigan
Rep Power: 416
KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Kevin,

*Totally* different subject; but what do you mean? There a couple AWD TT's that have trapped higher than 128. Are you talking in the 700 HP range and under?
Sorry brother, I meant in the K24,K16/24 class...
 
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 03:26 PM
  #14  
Divexxtreme's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,509
From: Virginia, USA
Rep Power: 789
Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !Divexxtreme Is a GOD !
Thanks, man.

FYI...I think Hamaan's car was using K24/18G's when he ran 10.7 @ 131 in the Euro Car shootout. I know his car was AWD. I'll have to check on the turbos to be sure, though...
 

Last edited by Divexxtreme; Jul 1, 2007 at 03:33 PM.
Old Jul 1, 2007 | 03:36 PM
  #15  
KPG's Avatar
KPG
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,726
From: Michigan
Rep Power: 416
KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !KPG Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
I think Hamaan's car was using K24/18G's when he ran 10.7 @ 131 in the Euro Car shootout. I know his car was AWD. I'll have to check on the turbos to be sure, though...
Hamaan7 has his car listed in his sig as a GT2 which makes any comparison useless due to the light weight and RWD....but this is missing the point, Marty claimed that an experience from a 993TT somehow correlates to a 996TT...I am saying that my experience with a 996TT says otherwise. Just a differing viewpoint....
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:53 PM.