Tried to find some info on the standard C4, but there wasnt really anything at all. You guys seem to love the C4s though. What are the main differences between a 996 C2 vs. a C4? I understand AWD and all that, but im wondering what changes AWD makes in a 911...a RWD.

Ive been talking to a guy with a 99 C4 with 40k miles. Theres a few threads on here about MK1 996s with low milage tend to be trouble when you turn them from a garage queen to a daily driver. Thoughts?

 

All C4 cars have PSM as standard. It was not standard in 99 for C2 cars.

 

I have 2000 C4 Right now TPC putting turbo charger on it I love the car. i only put 3000k mile year have no problem for 5 years.

 

different driving technique in the C4. you can flow through most curves pretty easily, but surely paying closer attention to the road at speed. with the rwd you need to pay more attention to the rear end and point steer through the apex, just like Henry Watts says. Lifting off in a tight turn in either car is not good... the C2 could slid out, and the C4 will surprise you when the psm comes on and grabs a wheel. flow, maintaining balance, and paying attn are the keys to driving both cars on curvy roads at some speed. imho, otherwise both feel pretty much the same.

 

AWD is really just for snow on these cars. Wet road handling is not a problem like it is with front engine cars. Have you ever driven an M3 on a wet road? Totally different from a C2.

 

I read somewhere, possibly R&T, that the C4, even with the additional weight of the awd, actually turned better flat out track times than the C2. Depending on the track I suppose.

I got mine for lots of wet weather driving, but as we don't get much if any snow, I run potenza 050 pole positions all year and like the aa traction rating for wet conditions.

 

How much of an advantage is it to have PSM? My blind thoughts are that a C2 without PSM will still be able to handle way better than a 325i or an A4. I dont really think that i'll be tracking my car at all...so i dont really plan on cutting around turns at 100+. (Still plan on driving it though)
I've found about 4 C4s and 4 C2s that i wouldnt mind buying if they check out/price is right. Plan 2 months ago was to buy this week...but it looks like i wont be buying till at least the third week in may.

 

Is the c2 basically a rwd model and the c4 is the all wheel model?

 

I think most folks who track the C4 turn the psm off when running hard. What's important is to keep the same brand of tires on the car and not mix fronts and rears. I had to turn off the psm when I needed to run different tires on the fronts/rears to essentially use up some tread a few years ago. Other than that I just leave it on all the time. Hard braking on a fast corner will cause the psm to grab and surprize you, but hard breaking on a fast corner has never been good when driving Porsche cars. Imho a knowledgeable driver in a C2 will run circles around a 325 or A4 without much effort.

 

yes. and welcome to the world of Porsche forums... always room for more ocd's

 

a bit better handling for the C4, but then again don't have any proof.

Know that AWD for Audi are deffo better handling for sports, does it translate to Porsche....anyone?

 

No. Audis are notoriously nose-heavy. The Quattro system helps balance them, but FWD doesn't help them much at all. Still a rewarding 'European' drive, but nowhere close to what you could probably get out of a Porsche.

The C4 is the 'every driver's' car. The AWD lets you accelerate from a stop faster at full throttle and is more stable in poor weather. It's very confidence-inspiring for the average person, so they tend to be faster with it. A 'race' driver in good conditions can get faster times with a C2, but it requires much bigger stones to take it to the limit and keep it there. When faced with a guardrail, most folk won't take that gamble unless they feel REAL lucky, and have the wallet to back it up.

A lot of 'enthusiast' drivers tend to migrate from AWD to RWD cars because they find AWD 'boring' after a fashion. They want the thrill of 'danger' it gives them.

 

Since we are discussing the 996 c2 vs c4 i have a concern. I have a 2000 c2 with headers and just the silicone intake tube. my cousin has a c4 with just the k&n cold air intake. well when we take off from about 15mph i jump out ahead in 1st and through 2nd but towards the end of 2nd switching into 3rd he pulls out ahead of me a good 2 cars. WHY IS THIS???

 

 

Here is a good read for you.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ferrerid=43587