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Originally Posted by Mother
I know I was alittle hard on ya! You will be able to get in this one but not sure how it is getting out!
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Originally Posted by deputydog95
i dont' have a clue as to how much i've spent, but it's too much what ever the number is. i prefer not to think about it as it makes me sad
the blower is great so far. it's a weekend car, but it could easily be a daily driver the way the evo system works. i've driven in it for hours before without making any positive manifold pressure. it really is a well thought out system. it feels very much stock till you mash the throttle and rev it up some.
the blower is great so far. it's a weekend car, but it could easily be a daily driver the way the evo system works. i've driven in it for hours before without making any positive manifold pressure. it really is a well thought out system. it feels very much stock till you mash the throttle and rev it up some.
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yeah, i have a bike that sucks my wallet dry too 
the evo system is a complete package. comes with everything. i still kind of feel the TPC kit is a little faster, but the EVO kit is no slouch and the reliability (knock on wood ) has been great with excellent customer service. it doesn't suck either that my local porsche dealer (bert smith porsche) did the install so i get great service there as well.
the evo system is a complete package. comes with everything. i still kind of feel the TPC kit is a little faster, but the EVO kit is no slouch and the reliability (knock on wood
) has been great with excellent customer service. it doesn't suck either that my local porsche dealer (bert smith porsche) did the install so i get great service there as well.
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Originally Posted by John Romano
I'm thinking I should just keep this car forever and keep building it.... Just like my motorcycles that never lose their thirst for the aftermarket!!
Dog and i both have ZX10R's (Mine's faster!-LOL) What's your ride?
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what's wrong with that, german engineered but made in china/taiwan/ BF egypt??? if it was engineered in germany and made in china to save on manufacturing costs, the statement is still 100% factual. if it has perfect welds and polish, why the hell would you be pissed and send it back? it never said made in germany.
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
Relax, I'm not trying to start an online pissing match here. Where are your ztec's made? Where are schnell's made? A guy on rennlist (gchoen I believe)proudly proclaimed his ztec's box said made in Tiawan, yet was German engineered. If I bought something that was "German engineered", then the shipping box said made in Tiawan/China I'd be pissed and send it back. If your ztecs are so great, how come they weigh half as much as the fabs? That's because they use thinner steel, that might be ok with you, not acceptable for me, to each his own.
Be sure before you call me a liar, I'll be happy to discuss this with you in pm as it's not my place to put out the LI shop's name when it's not my car in question. The fact is I did see a set at a shop, they looked good, but felt very light, that I found disturbing. The last thing you want is to have a set of headers rust out/ crack a yr later.
I'm glad you're happy with your headers, I like mine too, and I didn't pay twice as much either.
I something is copied, then mass produced using inferior parts, then it's a knockoff. If something looks identical to a German or American product, but it's made in Tiawan, then it's a knockoff in my book.
Have a nice day.
Be sure before you call me a liar, I'll be happy to discuss this with you in pm as it's not my place to put out the LI shop's name when it's not my car in question. The fact is I did see a set at a shop, they looked good, but felt very light, that I found disturbing. The last thing you want is to have a set of headers rust out/ crack a yr later.
I'm glad you're happy with your headers, I like mine too, and I didn't pay twice as much either.
I something is copied, then mass produced using inferior parts, then it's a knockoff. If something looks identical to a German or American product, but it's made in Tiawan, then it's a knockoff in my book.
Have a nice day.
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LOL, at least he has the "go" as well as the "show". he's got stck gt2 power levels. if i am not mistaken you have the wide body NA? how does it feel to have a ***** with no ***** 
Originally Posted by Don Relentless
hey hey now no need to bring race into this. if 27hp on the dyno floats your boat more power to you, or better yet little power to you. i don't really care just bored here at work and wanted to stir some ****. but really all this money doing this thing that thing to gain 10hp here and there just seems useless. just give it up already and buy a TT if you want a porsche with mass power. good luck in the search for ultimate power i hope you figure it out.
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Originally Posted by Miykl
I'm with you on the keep it and build it. Doesn't hurt so much to drop a few bills every now and then instead of the big note that comes with a TT.
Dog and i both have ZX10R's (Mine's faster!-LOL) What's your ride?
Dog and i both have ZX10R's (Mine's faster!-LOL) What's your ride?
My ride is your basic Arctic sliver 2002 C2 with a couple of cool options: Xenons, Alcantara headliner, Bose premium sound, and a few other things.
I have, or have on order: ZTek headers and FF mufflers, FabSpeed cat bypass, qaud tips (Hot Shotted gloss black - powder coating doesn't hold up to the heat), EVO V Flow intake, GIAC flash, Sandoval yellow calipers, SS brake lines, Yellow gauge faces, Alum bezels, H&R springs, B&M short shifter, German made smoke 3rd brake light, clear side markers, powdercoated (black) Carrera 5 spoke wheels, some CF dash pieces, Alpine head unit and, of course, bumper plugs. As soon as it all gets here I'm having everything installed at once, which is going to kill me because I could easily do it all myself but now I live in a condo in South Florida with no garage Grrrrrrrrrrr......
Later? I think a super charger would be cool. Along with some Gemballa bodywork, some more CF inside, and, and, and.... You understand.
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Karlooz, you're right it probably doesn't make a difference. I think the implication that something is German made only to find it's made elsewhere is what I'd be pissed about. If it was made known pre-purchase I would have no problem with it.
Case in point, I once bought this very high end bedroom furniture set at Macy's, very expensive, made in Canada, blah, blah, ....when they delivered it, all the crates said R.O.C., I did send that **** back.
BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
Case in point, I once bought this very high end bedroom furniture set at Macy's, very expensive, made in Canada, blah, blah, ....when they delivered it, all the crates said R.O.C., I did send that **** back.
BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
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i agree. i if the product is said to be made in x and was really made in y then i would be pissed too. i actually don't look down on products made in asia. they have taken our manufacturing techniques and have, in many ways, surpassed the US. i don't mind the asian made products as long as it is engineered the west. 
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
Karlooz, you're right it probably doesn't make a difference. I think the implication that something is German made only to find it's made elsewhere is what I'd be pissed about. If it was made known pre-purchase I would have no problem with it.
Case in point, I once bought this very high end bedroom furniture set at Macy's, very expensive, made in Canada, blah, blah, ....when they delivered it, all the crates said R.O.C., I did send that **** back.
BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
Case in point, I once bought this very high end bedroom furniture set at Macy's, very expensive, made in Canada, blah, blah, ....when they delivered it, all the crates said R.O.C., I did send that **** back.
BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
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Whenever somebody doesn't come out and say, in plain english, where an item is made, they have something to hide by definition. The issue with the headers in question is that they were proudly advertised as "German engineered", but upon arrival the box is found to be "made in Tiawan' or something similar, I too would be pissed. Just seems a little sleezy that they have to fool the consumer.
I went through the same thing recently when buying a new fly reel from a well established manufacturer, I thought it sounded too good to be true, finally after I posed a direct question as to it's origin (never mentioned in the advertising) the truth came out. Needless to say I said no thanks and bought a Ross reel (USA) instead for a lot more $$.
I went through the same thing recently when buying a new fly reel from a well established manufacturer, I thought it sounded too good to be true, finally after I posed a direct question as to it's origin (never mentioned in the advertising) the truth came out. Needless to say I said no thanks and bought a Ross reel (USA) instead for a lot more $$.
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hmmm... actually i don't take it as sleazy as long as it truly is german engineered. i work for a company and proudly claim it is designed/engineered in california and is made by various vendors in asia, the best vendors. we make the best products in the world
remember, german engineered does not mean german made. how is that fooling the customer. again, couldn't care less who makes it as long as it is made WELL.
i have a carbon fibre bicycle that is designed in the USA but is made in taiwan. i can tell you it is as good if not better that an equivalent USA made bicycle.
remember, german engineered does not mean german made. how is that fooling the customer. again, couldn't care less who makes it as long as it is made WELL.
i have a carbon fibre bicycle that is designed in the USA but is made in taiwan. i can tell you it is as good if not better that an equivalent USA made bicycle.
Originally Posted by DJ996
Whenever somebody doesn't come out and say, in plain english, where an item is made, they have something to hide by definition. The issue with the headers in question is that they were proudly advertised as "German engineered", but upon arrival the box is found to be "made in Tiawan' or something similar, I too would be pissed. Just seems a little sleezy that they have to fool the consumer.
I went through the same thing recently when buying a new fly reel from a well established manufacturer, I thought it sounded too good to be true, finally after I posed a direct question as to it's origin (never mentioned in the advertising) the truth came out. Needless to say I said no thanks and bought a Ross reel (USA) instead for a lot more $$.
I went through the same thing recently when buying a new fly reel from a well established manufacturer, I thought it sounded too good to be true, finally after I posed a direct question as to it's origin (never mentioned in the advertising) the truth came out. Needless to say I said no thanks and bought a Ross reel (USA) instead for a lot more $$.
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i definitely will give a SC track report. i have a track event on the 31st at laguna seca. hopefully it will be dry so i can push it a bit
a local guy, not on the boards, regularly tracks his SC'ed 996 cab and thrashes it. engine is still in tact. next time i see him i'll ask how many miles he has with the SC.
one thing about the SC is that you gotta respect the newly found power. i gunned it in second gear going onto the freeway and fishtailed it right and left and right, countersteering all the way. as you can tell, i don't have psm/traction control. thankfully the freeway was empty and the DE's paid off
. when it's on boost, WATCH OUT! it's an awsome feeling. it would have been less eventful with a C4S
a local guy, not on the boards, regularly tracks his SC'ed 996 cab and thrashes it. engine is still in tact
. next time i see him i'll ask how many miles he has with the SC.one thing about the SC is that you gotta respect the newly found power. i gunned it in second gear going onto the freeway and fishtailed it right and left and right, countersteering all the way. as you can tell, i don't have psm/traction control. thankfully the freeway was empty and the DE's paid off
. when it's on boost, WATCH OUT! it's an awsome feeling. it would have been less eventful with a C4S
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
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BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
BTW how's that sc running at the track, give us a real track report sometime, would be very enlightening.
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While not disclosing where an item is made is not wrong, it ain't right either. Hey as long as everyone is up front I'm cool with it, I just like to know what I'm dealing with. If a company is proud that their product is made in "X "then just come out and say it, instead of being vague about it.
. Hey as long as everyone is up front I'm cool with it, I just like to know what I'm dealing with. If a company is proud that their product is made in "X "then just come out and say it, instead of being vague about it.
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you are right but there is an underlying problem. people think products coming out of the east are **** and that is certainly not the case. yes you will get crap products from the east but you will from the good ol' USA as well. to counter this stigma, companies are emphasizing "designed/engineered in the USA/germany/etc". doesn't make it right but certainly is not wrong. a lot of US companies will also cirumvent this buy having the majority of parts made in the east and then is assembled in the states and claim MADE IN THE USA. symantics
Originally Posted by DJ996
While not disclosing where an item is made is not wrong, it ain't right either. Hey as long as everyone is up front I'm cool with it, I just like to know what I'm dealing with. If a company is proud that their product is made in "X "then just come out and say it, instead of being vague about it.
. Hey as long as everyone is up front I'm cool with it, I just like to know what I'm dealing with. If a company is proud that their product is made in "X "then just come out and say it, instead of being vague about it.