Nissan GT-R Superior?
Buddy, the direction of your arguement makes little sense to me. "If and when you do that one day, you'll know that it is a lot harder to stroke a check for 80k for a Nissan, than stroking a 100k check for a Porsche." What's your reasoning for this anway, or is it just ignorance? I already explained why I didn't agree with this statement. Oh, and thank you for correcting my spelling...as you seem to like to pick apart anything I say, and use it as a defense. Also, it's pretty obvious that in most cases you wont get "return" in a vehicle...what would you rather lose though, 25k in 4 years or 60k dollars in the same time period? I rest my case.
Last edited by 9Eleven; Apr 10, 2008 at 01:16 PM.
I'm amazed by your avoidance to answer any of the question that I put in front of you. Again, please explain why this is so, enlightened one: "If and when you do that one day, you'll know that it is a lot harder to stroke a check for 80k for a Nissan, than stroking a 100k check for a Porsche." Please quit relying on your typical, "you don't know what it's like to purchase a $100k" answer for everything, which has no relevance TO ME in this discussion, as I already explained in what financial cases I would take each respective car. "When people have wealth, they don't "lose" anything when they purchase a vehicle, they don't care, you do." You really think everyone has this attitude? You're ignorance amazes me. I guess you speak for EVERYONE.
I'm amazed by your avoidance to answer any of the question that I put in front of you. Again, please explain why this is so, enlightened one: "If and when you do that one day, you'll know that it is a lot harder to stroke a check for 80k for a Nissan, than stroking a 100k check for a Porsche." Please quit relying on your typical, "you don't know what it's like to purchase a $100k" answer for everything, which has no relevance TO ME in this discussion, as I already explained in what financial cases I would take each respective car. "When people have wealth, they don't "lose" anything when they purchase a vehicle, they don't care, you do." You really think everyone has this attitude? You're ignorance amazes me. I guess you speak for EVERYONE.
Last edited by 9Eleven; Apr 10, 2008 at 05:31 PM.
It would be "too" not "to"
Just an FYI - FYI being an acronym for "For Your Information". Now let's get back to the topic at hand. Well LET's NOT! I do not understand the continued need to re-thread this topic.timeattack07 - don't take anything "too" personally. If someone gets under your skin then it would seem that you feel a need to correct that person. Why take it personally? Just let it go. If you feel that you are right then so be it. But you will not change the mindset of the person who you wish to engage in a senseless banter over a topic that will not have a clear winner. This board and especially the 997 Turbo section does not fall into the value per dollar category. Value is something you get and Price is what you pay. We value our Porsche for the heritage that Porsche has and continues to represent. Nissan has heritage as well but we are not a NISSAN board to argue over that topic are we?
So I present a small proposal. Read below.
To anyone that starts a new topic with GT-R in the title please read the required text before doing so.
9Eleven: How am I supposed to choose car A or B, when according to you I have to own, and be able to write a check for both cars in order to be entitled to any valuable opinion of each car. Your reasoning is just flawed either way you look at it. I've logged more than enough miles on a 996 Turbo (at an HPDE at Laguna might I add) as well a 997 S and Turbo to be able to come up with a reasonable evaluation of each car...even if you would like to take that away from me. "I don't mind you talking about cars, but just remember its just talk." I know it's just talk lol, that's why in my first post I said, "my opinion is as important as the next guys" You seemed to get your panties in a twist over nothing...maybe because of some type of insecurity you have. You have a thing for correcting peoples grammer and puncuation, even though half the time you can't even fix their mistakes correctly lol. Anyway, lets settle our differences. You obviously think in a different way than I do. Each to their own
Alpine 997: I don't need you to be my therapist lol. If there's one thing I hate, it would have to be ignorant people. As well as fake people. I asked 9Eleven to explain why his flawed "I would have a hard time writing a check for a $80k Nissan in comparison to 100k Porsche" reasoning was correct, and he has yet to explain anything to me. I didn't even have to ask you, and you gave me your reason, "We value our Porsche for the heritage that Porsche has and continues to represent." No direspect intended, but to me this sounds like you're trying to be a part of something that you are really not. I hope you at least track your car, or are involved in some type of motorsports, where you're actually putting all of their racing heritage and collective knowledge to good use.
Alpine 997: I don't need you to be my therapist lol. If there's one thing I hate, it would have to be ignorant people. As well as fake people. I asked 9Eleven to explain why his flawed "I would have a hard time writing a check for a $80k Nissan in comparison to 100k Porsche" reasoning was correct, and he has yet to explain anything to me. I didn't even have to ask you, and you gave me your reason, "We value our Porsche for the heritage that Porsche has and continues to represent." No direspect intended, but to me this sounds like you're trying to be a part of something that you are really not. I hope you at least track your car, or are involved in some type of motorsports, where you're actually putting all of their racing heritage and collective knowledge to good use.
Last edited by timeattack07gt; Apr 10, 2008 at 02:04 PM.
9Eleven's argument works on many financial levels I think. The idea of "stroking a check" regardless of price range works for most people. I mean how many people are willing to stroke a $70k check for an M3 when they can get a used 996tt. Not many. Similarly how many can write a check for a $180k GT3 RS when they can get a Lambo or Ferrari. Not many.
ashokn225; That comes down to which car is superior in performance, and most suitable for the buyers particular needs though. Not paying for a marque name as 9Eleven was implying. Basically if both cars were physically identical, except for the badge, you would be willing to pay another 20k more for one car over the other, with all variables being stable (resale value,etc.)?
I never said that you had to own either car to talk about the cars. I do think that if you've owned at least one of them, it increases your credibility. You're new here, I hope you stick around, I don't want to pursuade you to leave. I think you could of chosen a less combative topic for your first post and susbsequent discussion, but what do I know.
For the record, I love all cars, I've owned many, but we all must eventually make a decision and the decision for me was clear. Buying a car for some people is a personal experience, numbers on a magazine page do not help determine the outcome. I test drove a Z06 for an entire day. Would I buy one? No. That is my personal decision based on how the car felt and looked. That doesn't make the guy who buys one less intelligent or a genius. That was his choice. My choice now is to end this argument and offer my hand. Welcome to 6speed.
For the record, I love all cars, I've owned many, but we all must eventually make a decision and the decision for me was clear. Buying a car for some people is a personal experience, numbers on a magazine page do not help determine the outcome. I test drove a Z06 for an entire day. Would I buy one? No. That is my personal decision based on how the car felt and looked. That doesn't make the guy who buys one less intelligent or a genius. That was his choice. My choice now is to end this argument and offer my hand. Welcome to 6speed.
ashokn225; That comes down to which car is superior in performance, and most suitable for the buyers particular needs though. Not paying for a marque name as 9Eleven was implying. Basically if both cars were physically identical, except for the badge, you would be willing to pay another 20k more for one car over the other, with all variables being stable (resale value,etc.)?
Mind you I haven't driven the Gtr, so the decision would be difficult. Which would you choose, if you had to make a choice based on just what you know right now? Let me add this small caveat, even though I now own a modded Gt2, I still miss the absolute precision the 3 had. DEAL OR NO DEAL?




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